Reds win

tedzan · #1 10-14-2010, 08:34 AM

Have you read...."RED LEGS and BLACK SOX"....by Susan Roush Dellinger ?

Susan is Ed Roush's Grandaughter; and, she presents a case in her book dispelling the story that the White Sox
threw the 1919 World Series. But, that the Reds won it "fair & square"....as, related to her by Ed Roush.

It makes for an interesting and alternative perspective on this event....as told by a ballplayer who was part of it.

TED Z

terjung · #2 10-14-2010, 10:37 AM

I never knew of that book and will have to check that one out. Thanks for posting that!

Here are a few more from the Big Red Machine years...

slidekellyslide · #3 10-14-2010, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan

Have you read...."RED LEGS and BLACK SOX"....by Susan Roush Dellinger ?

Susan is Ed Roush's Grandaughter; and, she presents a case in her book dispelling the story that the White Sox
threw the 1919 World Series. But, that the Reds won it "fair & square"....as, related to her by Ed Roush.

It makes for an interesting and alternative perspective on this event....as told by a ballplayer who was part of it.

TED Z

I'd like to read that...I don't believe it one bit..there is too much evidence showing the Sox threw the series. Of course I've also read some stuff saying that the Reds were trying to throw some of the games too. It sucks that guys like Buck Weaver and Joe Jackson were banned from baseball, but the overall effect of KML's harsh actions may have saved the National Pastime from becoming a total farce.

tedzan · #4 10-14-2010, 06:29 PM

I met Susan Dellinger in Cooperstown on HOF weekend 2006. She came to our BB card Show at the VFW building to acquire some cards
of her Grandfather. We talked for quite a while and she had some good arguments to refute the "Black Sox" scandal (as related to her
from Ed Roush). She related a story about how some of the Reds were also approached by gamblers. Reds' pitcher "Hod" Eller was con-
fronted by a gambler just before the eighth (final game) of the World Series to throw the game. Eller was offered $5000 to throw that
day's game. Eller responded with...."if you don't go away, I will would punch you in the nose".

I must admit, I started reading this book, but have not finished it. Yes, there is a lot of subjectivity by Roush in recounting that Series
events; however, it is somewhat refreshing to get a different perspective of these historic events in the Fall of 1919. Especially, from
someone who experienced it first hand.

I traded Susan several Ed Roush cards for her book (which she autographed for me).

TED Z

FrankWakefield · #5 10-14-2010, 08:22 PM

I've not read the Dellinger book, have not heard of it. But thank you, Ted, I'll now seek out a copy, and put in in the stack beside the bed...

Concepcion card... whenever I see one, I smile, because I remember a story I heard back when Larry Bowa and Davey C were both putting in near perfect fielding one season. The two were battling it out with the glove. Just before the Phillies and Reds met in a series, Concepcion made an error. So a day or so later the teams are both on the field as they're about to meet for the first game of the series. Both are out there warming up. During BP and warmups Bowa says "Hi,Elmer" as he sees Concepcion. He keeps speaking to Davey, and calling him Elmer. Finally, Davey says, "Hey Larry, my name's not Elmer." Bowa replies, "I'm sorry, I thought it was, I kept seeing E Concepcion in the box scores and thought the E stood for 'Elmer.'"

If it isn't true it should be...

terjung · #6 10-15-2010, 07:59 AM

funny anecdote!

... a couple more cards, just for fun

rc4157 · #7 10-15-2010, 01:27 PM

To the best of my knowledge the "Elmer" Concepcion story is true.

The other good Concepcion story is when he, for some reason, climbed inside a clothes dryer in the clubhouse and someone turned it on and Davey just went "round and round" until someone let him out.

RC

FrankWakefield · #8 10-15-2010, 07:56 PM

A few of the 1919 Reds...

Took me a while to dig these out. Wingo has that catcher's mitt, even if he isn't depicted with the Reds.

Rob D. · #9 10-15-2010, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rc4157

To the best of my knowledge the "Elmer" Concepcion story is true.

The other good Concepcion story is when he, for some reason, climbed inside a clothes dryer in the clubhouse and someone turned it on and Davey just went "round and round" until someone let him out.

RC

I've also heard the clothes dryer story, Richard. Maybe from Bench's book Catch You Later?

Thanks for posting that; I had forgotten it.

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