My two cents: When a team moves, thats it.

scooter729 · #1 10-29-2010, 02:35 PM

You beat me to the punch while I was typing, David!

tbob · #2 10-29-2010, 02:43 PM

I think it's not only sad but idiotic that the Twins don't recognize their heritage and honor Walter Johnson, Bucky Harris, Ed Delehanty, Heinie Manush, Goose Goslin, etc. They think the Twins just came on the scene in 1961 like Athena sprouting from the forehead of Zeus instead of recognizing the tradition and long suffering Washington Senators.

Section103 · #3 10-29-2010, 02:45 PM

I just dont see it that way. I can see how you would if you lived in either of the two cities, but to pretend there is no continuity between the two is silly in my book. My wife runs her own business and changed offices this very past weekend. Its the same business, she didnt start a new one. She just changed locations. Granted, nobody's paying $30 a ticket to watch her be an insurance agent, but.... Organizations face different phases of life, just like families. You're still the same family if you move from NY to SF; you're still the same organization.

bmarlowe1 · #4 10-29-2010, 02:54 PM

The Giants move to SF, whether an unfortunate event or not, does not change the fact that they have been a year to year continuously operating NL franchise since 1883. When they moved to SF they did not drop all their NY players and start anew. Matty did play for that franchise. Koufax is considered to have played for only one team - right?

I think the above cases are pretty clear. There are some that are more complicated, such as the Bal AL "move" to NY in 1903, or the 1899 "replacement" of most of the 1898 STL NL players with those of the 1898 Cle NL franchise.

barrysloate · #5 10-29-2010, 03:03 PM

M's Fan- how would you feel about the 1955 Brooklyn Dodgers and the 1959 Los Angeles team? Because they each won championships only four years apart, many of the same players were on both teams. Wouldn't that be enough of an historical connection?

Anthony S. · #6 10-29-2010, 03:15 PM

I like that the Giants ownership embraces their New York roots. I agree that saying the San Francisco Giants haven't won a series since 1954 is silly. The Giants haven't won it since 1954, the San Francisco Giants have never won it (though I'm currently in negotiations with God to change that).

uffda51 · #7 10-29-2010, 03:49 PM

Sure, Athena sprouted from the head of Zeus, but that was long after Zeus changed his name (originally Bob Sacamano) and left Long Island for Greece.

Gary Dunaier · #8 10-29-2010, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony S.

I like that the Giants ownership embraces their New York roots.

If memory serves me right, NY Giants players whose numbers were retired, who played before players actually had numbers, have a big "NY" on the wall under their name in lieu of a number.

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