Do we trust them now?

[steve B]

Any new grading service has to overcome being put in the same group as the ones that aren't even genarally consistent. All the big 3 make mistakes, but over thousands of cards are generally right about trimming, and generally consistent on the grade.

But there's a bunch of grading services that haven't measured up in one way or another. I think I read somewhere that PSA had a collection or database of about 2000 other grading companies. Some probably found it wasn't all that easy, some probably had a poor business model from the start, and others couldn't get it right. The worst of them intentionally never get it right.
Like the "graded" spaulding guide pages one guy sells on Ebay, a screwdown holder and a sticker don;t make a grading company.

I've seen a few others that never seem to grade anything as less than an 8. (Probably actually only 9 or 10, but I'm going easy since I don't look at many modern cards)

So yeah, anyone new has to establish themselves as reliable before their work will be generally accepted.

Steve B

[bobbyw8469]

Here is the first test!.....

http://www.milehighcardco.com/LotDet...-ISA-8-NM%2fMT



Let me start by saying I LOVE THIS CARD. But obviously, I wouldn't want it in that holder. What are the odds of me getting it into a PSA or SGC holder??

[canjond]

I don't know '58 Topps football at all, so have no idea if that card is trimmed or not, but assuming that it is not trimmed, ISA has to get a better holder. look how much space is between the top and bottom of the card. It not only makes the card appear trimmed, but also can damage the card.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Here is the first test!.....
What are the odds of me getting it into a PSA or SGC holder??

Odds of getting it into an SGC, PSA or Beckett holder? Good. Odds of getting an 8. Not as good.

[Brian Weisner]

This looks like a much bigger problem......

http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-t206-piedmo...item2c5865faeb




Be well Brian

PS Anyone else have a 350 backed Magie.....

[canjond]

wow - good catch Brian. What's scary is that card certainly looks good to me.

[bobbyw8469]

I guess I am unaware of the issue to spot the problem. What exactly is wrong with the Magie?

[canjond]

Magie error cards can ONLY be found with 150 backs. The ISA one in question has a 350 back.

[iggyman]

Oops! Auction was changed......okay, never mind, guess it was a pop quiz. A+ for you Brian!

I believe they just got lapped by Beckett and gasped......GAI.

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Lovely Day...

Originally Posted by Brian Weisner

This looks like a much bigger problem......

http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-t206-piedmo...item2c5865faeb




Be well Brian

PS Anyone else have a 350 backed Magie.....

[bobbyw8469]

Whoopsie!! Did ISA just mislabel the card, or does that mean the card was a fake??

[Matthew H]

It looked like "Magie" on the front. Not good for a new company. (or an old one)