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11-09-2010, 03:02 PM
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Ted,
I have a Modecai Brown throwing with an Old Mill back. 
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11-09-2010, 06:01 PM
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FYI....T206 OLD MILL (Black & Brown) confirmed lists
 To date, there are 300 confirmed T206 cards with the Black OLD MILL back. Including the 48 - Southern Leaguer's with OLD MILL backs....the grand total = 348 subjects with OLD MILL backs Abbaticchio (brown sleeves) Abbaticchio (blue sleeves) Abbott Alperman Ames (portrait) Ames (hands above head) Anderson Atz Baker Ball (New York) Ball (Cleveland) Batch Bates Beaumont Beck Bell (pitching) Bender (portrait) Bender (no trees) Bender (trees) Bergen (bat) Bergen (catching) Berger Bescher (arms in air) Birmingham Blackburne Bliss Bowerman Bradley (portrait) Bradley (bat) Brain Bransfield Bresnahan (portrait) Bridwell (no cap) Bridwell (portrait-cap) M. Brown (portrait-red) M. Brown (Chicago) Burch (fielding) Burke Burns Bush Camnitz (arms folded) Camnitz (arm at side) Camnitz (hands over head) Campbell Casey Chance (portrait-red) Chance (portrait-yellow) Chance (bat) Chase (portrait-pink) Chase (portrait-blue) Chase (white cap) Chase (dark cap) Chase (trophy) Chesbro F. Clarke (portrait) F. Clarke (bat) Clarke (Cleveland) Cobb (portrait-green) Cobb (bat on shoulder) Cobb (portrait-red) Cobb (bat off shoulder) Collins (A's) Congalton Conroy (fielding) Conroy (bat) Covaleski Crandall (no cap) Cravath Crawford (throwing) Crawford (bat) Cree Criss Dahlen (Brooklyn) H. Davis (A's) Harry Davis (A's) George Davis (Chicago) Delehanty (Washington) Devlin Dineen Donlin (seated) Donlin (bat) Donovan (portrait) Dooin Doolan (bat) Dougherty (arm in air) Downey (bat) Joe Doyle (hands over head) Larry Doyle (portrait) Larry Doyle (bat) Dubuc Duffy Dunn (Baltimore) Dunn (Brooklyn) Durham Easterly Egan Elberfeld (Washington-portrait) Elberfeld (Washington-fielding) Evers (portrait) Evers (bat-yellow sky) Ferris Fiene (portrait) Fiene (throwing) Flanagan Flick Ford Frill Freeman Fromme Gandil Gasper Geyer Gibson Gilbert Goode Graham (Boston) Graham (St Louis) Griffith (portrait) Griffith (bat) Hahn Hallman Hannifan Hartsel Hemphill Herzog (New York) Herzog (Boston) Hinchman (Cleveland) Hinchman (Toledo) Hoblitzell Hoffman (Providence) Hoffman (St Louis) Hofman Howell (hand at waist) Hulswitt Hummel Isbell Jacklitsch Jackson Jennings (portrait) Jennings (one hand) Jennings (both hands) Johnson (portrait) Johnson (pitching) Jones (Detroit) F. Jones (hips) F. Jones (portrait) Jordan (portrait) Jordan (bat) Joss (portrait) Joss (pitching) Keeler (portrait) Keeler (bat) Kelley Killian (hands at chest) Kisinger Kleinow (New York-catching) Kleinow (Boston-catching) Kleinow (New York-bat) Kling Knight (bat) Konetchy (glove high) Konetchy (glove low) Krause (portrait) Kruger Lajoie (portrait) Lajoie (throwing) Lajoie (bat) Lake (St Louis-ball) Lake (St Louis-no ball) Latham Lavender Leach (portrait) Leach (cap) Leifield (bat) Liebhardt Livingstone Lobert Lumley Magee (portrait) Magee (bat) Manning (bat) Manning (pitching) Marquard (hands/side) Marquard (throwing) Mathewson (white cap) Mathewson (portrait) Mathewson (dark cap) McCormick McGlynn McGraw (portrait-cap) McGraw (pointing) McIntyre (Brooklyn) McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago) McQuillan (bat) McQuillan (ball in hand) Merkle (throwing) Meyers Milligan Mullin (bat) Murphy (bat) Murphy (throwing) Murray (portrait) Myers (fielding) Needham Nichols (bat) Nicholls (fielding) Niles Oakes Oberlin Oldring (bat) Oldring (fielding) O'Leary (portrait) O'Leary (hands/knees) Overall (portrait) Overall (yellow sky) Overall (blue sky) Owen Parent Pastorius Payne Pelty (vertical) Pfeffer Pfeister (seated) Pfeister (throwing) Powell (horizontal) Purtell Quillen Reulbach (no glove) Rhoades (arm extended) Rhodes Ritchey Rucker (throwing) Rudolph Schaefer (Washington) Schlei (bat) Schlei (portrait) Schmidt (throwing) Schulte (back view) Scott Seymour (portrait) Seymour (throwing) Sheckard (no glove) F. Smith (Chicago) Smith (Chicago, white cap) Smith (Chicago & Boston) Smith (Brooklyn) Smith (Buffalo) Snodgrass (catching) Spade Stahl (glove) Stanage Steinfeldt (bat) Stephens Stone Stovall (portrait) Stovall (bat) Street (catching) Sullivan Sweeney (Boston) Sweeney (New York) L. Tannehill (Chicago) J. Tannehill (Washington) Tannehill (follow thru) Taylor Tenney Ira Thomas Tinker (hands/knees) Tinker (bat on) Tinker (bat off) Titus Turner Waddell (throwing) Waddell (portrait) Wagner (left shoulder) Wagner (right shoulder) Wallace Walsh Weimer Wheat White (Chicago-portrait) White (Chicago-pitching) White (Buffalo) Wilhelm (hands at chest) Wilhelm (bat) Willett Willetts Williams Willis (Pittsburg) Willis (throwing) Willis (bat) Wilson Wright Wiltse (portrait-cap) Wiltse (no cap) Wiltse (pitching) CYoung (portrait) CYoung (no glove) CYoung (glove) Irv Young Zimmerman Updated to add M. Brown (Chicago) and H. Davis to this list. TED Z Last edited by tedzan; 06-30-2017 at 05:11 PM.
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01-10-2011, 04:46 PM
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Which Harry Davis (A's)?
Hi Ted,
Could you be a bit more specific as to which of the T206 Harry Davis (A's) has been confirmed with the Old Mill back, please? Is it the "Davis on Front" or is it the "H. Davis on Front"? Thanks and Best Regards, Craig (Fronts' images are from the Web)
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04-13-2011, 06:19 PM
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Ted, I just picked up White (Houston - SLer) and noticed a lighter back to it. Is this a 'Brown OM' back? Brown or just a lighter Black back?
Last edited by jp1216; 04-13-2011 at 07:09 PM.
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#8
04-15-2014, 10:16 AM
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FYI....T206 black OLD MILL confirmed list....UPDATED
 .. To date....306 black OLD MILL cards have been confirmed (not including Southern Leaguers). They are listed here as a function of their respective T206 series. 150/350 Series..................120 subjects Abbaticchio (brown sleeves) Alperman Ames (portrait) Ball (New York) Bates Beaumont Bell (hands over head) Bender (portrait) Bergen (bat) Bowerman Bradley (portrait) Bransfield Bridwell (portrait-no cap) Bresnahan (portrait) M. Brown (portrait) Camnitz (arms folded) Chance (red portrait) Chase (pink portrait) Chase (white cap) Chesbro Clarke (portrait) JJ Clarke Cobb (green) Cobb (bat on shoulder) Conroy (fielding) Coveleski Crandall (no cap) Crawford (throwing) Criss George Davis (Chicago) Harry Davis (A's) Delehanty (Washington) Donlin (seated) Donovan (portrait) Doolin Dougherty (portrait) Durham Evers (portrait) Ferris Flick Ganley Gibson Gilbert Goode Griffith (portrait) Hahn Hemphill Herzog (New York) Hinchman (Cleveland) Isbell Jacklitsch Jennings (portrait) Johnson (portrait) F. Jones (portrait) F. Jones (hands at hips) Jordan (portrait) Joss (portrait) Keeler (portrait) Keeler (bat) Killian (pitching) Kleinow (bat) Kling Konetchy (glove high) Lajoie (portrait) Lajoie (throwing) Lake (New York) Leach (portrait) Leifield (pitching) Liebhardt Lobert Lumley Manning (bat) Marquard (hands at side) Mathewson (portrait) Mathewson (white cap) McGraw (portrait-no cap) McGraw (pointing) McIntyre (Brooklyn) McQuillan (ball in hand) Murphy (throwing) Nicholls (hands on knees) Niles Oldring (fielding) O'Leary (portrait) Overall (portrait) Owen Parent Pastorius Powell Ritchey Rucker (portrait) Schlei (catching) Schmidt (throwing) Sheckard (no glove) Shipke F. Smith (Chicago) Spade Stahl (no glove) Steinfeldt (portrait) Stone Stovall (portrait) Sullivan L Tannehill (Chicago) Tenney Tinker (portrait) Tinker (hands on knees) Turner Waddell (portrait) Waddell (throwing) Wagner (bat on left) Wallace Walsh Weimer Doc White (portrait) Wilhelm (hands at chest) Williams Willis (portrait) Wiltse (portrait-no cap) CYoung (portrait) CYoung (bare hand) 350-only Series..................76 subjects Abbott Anderson Atz Batch Beck Bender (trees) Blackburne Bliss Brain Brown (Washington) Burke Burns Bush Campbell Casey Clark Collins (A's) Congalton Cravath Cree Dahlen (Brooklyn) Dineen Joe Doyle (hands over head) Dubuc Dunn (Baltimore) Dunn (Brooklyn) Easterly Egan Elberfeld (portrait-Washington) Fiene (portrait) Fiene (throwing) Flanagan Freeman Fromme Gasper Graham (Boston) Hallman Hannifan Hartsel Hinchman (Toledo) Hoblitzell Hofman Hoffman (Providence) Hulswitt Jackson Kelley Kisinger Kleinow (New York-catching) Knight (bat) Krause (portrait) Kruger Lavender Livingstone McCormick Milligan Oakes Oberlin Parent Pfeister (seated) Purtell Quillen Rhoades (arm extended) Scott Smith (Buffalo) F. Smith (white cap) Stanage Stephens Sweeney (Boston) J. Tannehill (Washington) Taylor Thomas Titus White (Buffalo) Wilson Wright Zimmerman 350/460 series..................58 subjects Ames (hands over head) Baker Bender (no trees) Berger Bradley (bat) M. Brown (Chicago) Burch (fielding) Cobb (bat off shoulder) Conroy (bat) Crawford (bat) Harry Davis (A's) Donlin (bat) Doolan (bat) Dougherty (arm in air) Downey (bat) Larry Doyle (bat) Elberfeld (Washington-fielding) Griffith (bat) Jennings (one hand) Jennings (two hands) Johnson (pitching) Jordan (bat) Joss (pitching) Kleinow (Boston) Konetchy (glove low) Lajoie (bat) Lake, St. Louis (no ball) Leach (cap) Leifeld (bat) Magee (bat) Manning (pitching) McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago) McQuillan (bat) Mullin (bat) Murphy (bat) Nichols (bat) O'Leary (hands on knees) Overall (yellow sky) Pelty (vertical) Pfeister (throwing) Reulbach (no glove) Rucker (throwing) Seymour (throwing) F. Smith (Chicago & Boston) Snodgrass (catching) Stahl (glove) Steinfeldt (bat) Street (catching) Sweeney (fielding) Tinker (bat off shoulder) Wagner (bat on right) Doc White (Chicago-pitching) Wilhelm (bat) Willetts Willis (throwing) Willis (bat) Wiltse (pitching) CYoung (glove) 460-only Series..................46 subjects Abbaticchio (blue sleeves) Ball (Cleveland) Bell (follow thru) Bergen (catching) Bescher (hands over head) Bridwell (portrait-cap) Camnitz (hands over head) Camnitz (arm at side) Chance (bat) Chase (trophy) Crandall (portrait-cap) Devore Duffy Larry Doyle (portrait) Ford Frill Gandil Geyer Herzog (Boston) Howell (hand at waist} Hummel Lake, St. Louis (ball) Latham Marquard (pitching) McGraw (portrait-cap) McGraw (glove at hip) Merkle (throwing) Meyers (portrait) Murray (portrait) Needham Oldring (batting) Overall (blue sky) Payne Pfeffer Schaefer (Washington) Schlei (portrait) Schlei (bat) Schulte (back view) Seymour (portrait) Sheckard (glove) Smith (Brooklyn) Stovall (bat) Tannehill (Chicago) Tinker (bat on shoulder) Wheat Wiltse (portrait-cap) Six Super-Prints Chance (yellow portrait) Chase (blue portrait) Chase (dark cap) Cobb (red portrait) Evers (Chicago-yellow sky) Mathewson (dark cap) NOTE...... The Exclusive 12 subjects in the 460-only Series are very RARELY found with the OLD MILL back.   Including the 48 subjects in the Southern League series....the grand total of Black OLD MILL cards confirmed to date = 354 This survey is a work in progress....any new OLD MILL inputs are greatly appreciated. Thanks, T-Rex TED . Last edited by tedzan; 06-30-2017 at 05:15 PM.
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04-16-2014, 10:19 AM
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Hey guys......
A picture is worth 1000 words......so, illustrated here are the 12 tobacco advertisement backs that were printed on the T206 Subjects in the 150/350 Series............
  Subsequent Series backs will follow. T-Rex TED . Last edited by tedzan; 07-04-2017 at 08:49 AM.
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04-16-2014, 10:17 PM
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Ted--
Just want to Thank You for all the reseach & updating you do to keep your studies as current as possible. You are to be commended for your timeless & unending attention to detail.
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04-17-2014, 04:06 PM
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350-only Series backs......
A picture is worth 1000 words....so, illustrated here are all 15 tobacco brands that were printed on the T206 Subjects in the 350-only Series............
Included here is the 1910 COUPON back for those of us who consider this 68-card sub-set as part of the T206 family.  Furthermore...... NOTE....the A-B-C-D connection  T-Rex TED . Last edited by tedzan; 07-04-2017 at 01:54 PM.
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04-18-2014, 02:23 PM
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350/460 Series backs......
A picture is worth 1000 words....so, illustrated here are all 22 tobacco brands that were printed on the T206 Subjects in the 350/460 Series............
460-type backs .................................................. ............. Factory #42 ovpt. ........... Factory #42  .................................................. .................................................. ................................... Factory #25 .......................... Factory #42 ........................ 350-type backs T-Rex TED . Last edited by tedzan; 07-04-2017 at 08:58 AM.
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04-21-2014, 11:09 AM
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And, the 460-only Series backs......
A picture is worth 1000 words......therefore, illustrated here are all 16 tobacco brands that were printed on the T206 Subjects in the 460-only Series............
..... Factory #25 .....  .... Factory #30 ....... Factory #42 ........... Factory #42 ..... ......................... Factory #42 .................... T-Rex TED __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ LOOKING for this T206 guy to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects) SHECKARD (glove) . Last edited by tedzan; 07-04-2017 at 09:00 AM.
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10-16-2014, 01:05 PM
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10-16-2014, 06:54 PM
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FYI....T206 OLD MILL (Black & Brown) confirmed lists
Thanks Donnie......Cicotte has been added to the list.
..To date....310 black OLD MILL Major League subjects have been confirmed. They are listed here as a function of their respective T206 series. 150/350 Series..................124 subjects Abbaticchio (brown sleeves) Alperman Ames (portrait) Ball (New York) Bates Beaumont Bell (hands over head) Bender (portrait) Bergen (bat) Bowerman Bradley (portrait) Bransfield Bridwell (portrait-no cap) Bresnahan (portrait) M. Brown (portrait) Camnitz (arms folded) Chance (red portrait) Chase (pink portrait) Chase (white cap) Chesbro Cicotte Clarke (portrait) JJ Clarke Cobb (green) Cobb (bat on shoulder) Conroy (fielding) Coveleski Crandall (no cap) Crawford (throwing) Criss George Davis (Chicago) Harry Davis (A's) Delehanty (Washington) Devlin Donlin (seated) Donovan (portrait) Doolin Dougherty (portrait) Durham Evers (portrait) Ferris Flick Ganley Gibson Gilbert Goode Griffith (portrait) Hahn Hemphill Herzog (New York) Hinchman (Cleveland) Isbell Jacklitsch Jennings (portrait) Johnson (portrait) F. Jones (portrait) F. Jones (hands at hips) Jordan (portrait) Joss (portrait) Keeler (portrait) Keeler (bat) Killian (pitching) Kleinow (bat) Kling Konetchy (glove high) Lajoie (portrait) Lajoie (throwing) Lake (New York) Leach (portrait) Leifield (pitching) Liebhardt Lobert Lumley Magee (portrait) Manning (bat) Marquard (hands at side) Mathewson (portrait) Mathewson (white cap) McGraw (portrait-no cap) McGraw (pointing) McIntyre (Brooklyn) McQuillan (ball in hand) Merkle (portrait) Murphy (throwing) Nicholls (hands on knees) Niles Oldring (fielding) O'Leary (portrait) Overall (portrait) Owen Parent Pastorius Powell Ritchey Rucker (portrait) Schlei (catching) Schmidt (throwing) Sheckard (no glove) Shipke F. Smith (Chicago) Spade Stahl (no glove) Steinfeldt (portrait) Stone Stovall (portrait) Sullivan L Tannehill (Chicago) Tenney Tinker (portrait) Tinker (hands on knees) Turner Waddell (portrait) Waddell (throwing) Wagner (bat on left) Wallace Walsh Weimer Doc White (portrait) Wilhelm (hands at chest) Williams Willis (portrait) Wiltse (portrait-no cap) CYoung (portrait) CYoung (bare hand) 350-only Series..................76 subjects Abbott Anderson Atz Batch Beck Bender (trees) Blackburne Bliss Brain Brown (Washington) Burke Burns Bush Campbell Casey Clark Collins (A's) Congalton Cravath Cree Dahlen (Brooklyn) Dineen Joe Doyle (hands over head) Dubuc Dunn (Baltimore) Dunn (Brooklyn) Easterly Egan Elberfeld (portrait-Washington) Fiene (portrait) Fiene (throwing) Flanagan Freeman Fromme Gasper Graham (Boston) Hallman Hannifan Hartsel Hinchman (Toledo) Hoblitzell Hofman Hoffman (Providence) Hulswitt Jackson Kelley Kisinger Kleinow (New York-catching) Knight (bat) Krause (portrait) Kruger Lavender Livingstone McCormick Milligan Oakes Oberlin Parent Pfeister (seated) Purtell Quillen Rhoades (arm extended) Scott Smith (Buffalo) F. Smith (white cap) Stanage Stephens Sweeney (Boston) J. Tannehill (Washington) Taylor Thomas Titus White (Buffalo) Wilson Wright Zimmerman 350/460 series..................58 subjects Ames (hands over head) Baker Bender (no trees) Berger Bradley (bat) M. Brown (Chicago) Burch (fielding) Cobb (bat off shoulder) Conroy (bat) Crawford (bat) Harry Davis (A's) Donlin (bat) Doolan (bat) Dougherty (arm in air) Downey (bat) Larry Doyle (bat) Elberfeld (Washington-fielding) Griffith (bat) Jennings (one hand) Jennings (two hands) Johnson (pitching) Jordan (bat) Joss (pitching) Kleinow (Boston) Konetchy (glove low) Lajoie (bat) Lake, St. Louis (no ball) Leach (cap) Leifeld (bat) Magee (bat) Manning (pitching) McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago) McQuillan (bat) Mullin (bat) Murphy (bat) Nichols (bat) O'Leary (hands on knees) Overall (yellow sky) Pelty (vertical) Pfeister (throwing) Reulbach (no glove) Rucker (throwing) Seymour (throwing) F. Smith (Chicago & Boston) Snodgrass (catching) Stahl (glove) Steinfeldt (bat) Street (catching) Sweeney (fielding) Tinker (bat off shoulder) Wagner (bat on right) Doc White (Chicago-pitching) Wilhelm (bat) Willetts Willis (throwing) Willis (bat) Wiltse (pitching) CYoung (glove) 460-only Series..................46 subjects Abbaticchio (blue sleeves) Ball (Cleveland) Bell (follow thru) Bergen (catching) Bescher (hands over head) Bridwell (portrait-cap) Camnitz (hands over head) Camnitz (arm at side) Chance (bat) Chase (trophy) Crandall (portrait-cap) Devore Duffy Larry Doyle (portrait) Ford Frill Gandil Geyer Herzog (Boston) Howell (hand at waist} Hummel Lake, St. Louis (ball) Latham Marquard (pitching) McGraw (portrait-cap) McGraw (glove at hip) Merkle (throwing) Meyers (portrait) Murray (portrait) Needham Oldring (batting) Overall (blue sky) Payne Pfeffer Schaefer (Washington) Schlei (portrait) Schlei (bat) Schulte (back view) Seymour (portrait) Sheckard (glove) Smith (Brooklyn) Stovall (bat) Tannehill (Chicago) Tinker (bat on shoulder) Wheat Wiltse (portrait-cap) Six Super-Prints Chance (yellow portrait) Chase (blue portrait) Chase (dark cap) Cobb (red portrait) Evers (Chicago-yellow sky) Mathewson (dark cap) NOTE...... The Exclusive 12 subjects in the 460-only Series are very RARELY found with the OLD MILL back. Including the 48 subjects in the Southern League series....the grand total of Black OLD MILL cards confirmed to date = 357 This survey is a work in progress....any new OLD MILL inputs are greatly appreciated. Thanks, TED Z . Last edited by tedzan; 11-05-2019 at 07:45 PM.
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10-16-2014, 09:12 PM
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About your Old Mill list
Ted, are there any differences between your checklist and the one on T206resource?
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05-21-2016, 10:29 PM
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Just noticed that you have Charlie Rhodes listed as confirmed on the first 4 lists but he was taken off once they were divided by series. Has he been confirmed with an old mill back?
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