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Old 12-02-2010, 09:56 AM
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Default The last 10 minutes

Can I have the last 10 minutes of my life back please....what a waste of time, and yet I feel the need to respond.

Derek-

Argue all you want, IMO your sole purpose was revealed when you removed the word reprint or any modern dates in your aging process. You are trying to deceive, plain and simple. Your argument that we have all been burned and buyer beware doesn't hold water with me. Why be part of the problem by making these cards available to an unsuspecting public?

To All Others-

Derek is the classic internet forum troll. Loves to stir the pot, doesn't listen to the obvious sound reasoning of the rest of the group and will continue to post so that he always has the last word.

I have had my say, feel somewhat better and will never post again in the is thread so Derek can continue to get his jollies. In fact, I probably will never read this thread again.

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Old 12-02-2010, 10:13 AM
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Why is this post still on? I cannot believe that time is given to this guy wo really doesn't care obuot old cards. His purpose is to get attention and make money selling his crap. Why is this post allowed to continue? It is a absolute joke. Frank
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:28 AM
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Why is this post still on? I cannot believe that time is given to this guy wo really doesn't care obuot old cards. His purpose is to get attention and make money selling his crap. Why is this post allowed to continue? It is a absolute joke. Frank
It is probably still on here for the good of the hobby.

The more time that he can be lured into spending here, the less time that he has to ply his ill-conceived wares.
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Derek is the classic internet forum troll. Loves to stir the pot, doesn't listen to the obvious sound reasoning of the rest of the group. . . .
Agreed. Shut him down.
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The guy is charging $5 for the cards and disclosing that they are reprints. His intent is to defraud?
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The guy is charging $5 for the cards and disclosing that they are reprints. His intent is to defraud?
Adding fuel to the fire.

He is at best either intentionally or recklessly promoting a future fraud.
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Old 12-02-2010, 01:46 PM
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Hilarius. Love that. Seriously someone paid $100 bucks for that. They must be the biggest dummies

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The guy is charging $5 for the cards and disclosing that they are reprints. His intent is to defraud?
Peter- Actually, I might have missed it but I didn't see anyone say this guy is committing fraud himself. You are ignoring the point.....take this for example....here is what these cards will end up like, and worse.....I guarantee it, and you know it too.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Babe-Ruth-Old-Lo...mZ230558370859

Unlike some, I still don't think of him as a troll. He is just causing future problems for the hobby. If you are ok with that, then so be it.
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If I were selling unmarked reprints of 100$ bills for 5 bucks, it would be fraud. I think this should be fraud too.
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Leon you did miss it, see for example post 167.

"You are trying to deceive, plain and simple."

Not that I am defending the guy or his absurd rants....
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Leon you did miss it, see for example post 167.

"You are trying to deceive, plain and simple."

Not that I am defending the guy or his absurd rants....
I didn't really want to post again in this thread but no, I didn't see that, Peter. In that case I agree with you on both points. best regards
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Old 12-04-2010, 09:34 PM
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Key things to look at for buyers on this post

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Member id only-deals4u ( Feedback Score Of 0 )


UNKNOWN AUTHENTICITY (PLEASE SEE ABOVE PICTURES)

Only fools would fall for that one.

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Peter- Actually, I might have missed it but I didn't see anyone say this guy is committing fraud himself. You are ignoring the point.....take this for example....here is what these cards will end up like, and worse.....I guarantee it, and you know it too.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Babe-Ruth-Old-Lo...mZ230558370859

Unlike some, I still don't think of him as a troll. He is just causing future problems for the hobby. If you are ok with that, then so be it.
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The guy is charging $5 for the cards and disclosing that they are reprints. His intent is to defraud?
How much do reprints usually go for, without the artificially aged look, about a buck right? Another buck for shipping? $2 bucks!

Someone might be interested in paying him $3 bucks per card to rough them up, but I'd rather have a pristine reprint to dream over.

The five dollars includes shipping, but it doesn't say how they are shipped.

Then when I looked at the Wagner, it was $15, but included Case (screw down) and......wait for it....Tracking Jerry, Tracking. Now there are two more items to mark up and the profit starts to add up...the American way of Capitalism at work here. For another $5, I bet I can get a bow and for another $5 a Certificate of nonAuthenticity.

Really not illegal, dubious, but not illegal. Enabling a third party to resell a reprint as authentic, which will invariably happen, is a real shame as far as the hobby is concerned, but as ebay is evidence of, there's apparently more than one sucker born everyday. This fits right in with the banking industry motto - An Uneducated Consumer Is Our Best Customer -
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Love the quotes

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How much do reprints usually go for, without the artificially aged look, about a buck right? Another buck for shipping? $2 bucks!

Someone might be interested in paying him $3 bucks per card to rough them up, but I'd rather have a pristine reprint to dream over.

The five dollars includes shipping, but it doesn't say how they are shipped.

Then when I looked at the Wagner, it was $15, but included Case (screw down) and......wait for it....Tracking Jerry, Tracking. Now there are two more items to mark up and the profit starts to add up...the American way of Capitalism at work here. For another $5, I bet I can get a bow and for another $5 a Certificate of nonAuthenticity.

Really not illegal, dubious, but not illegal. Enabling a third party to resell a reprint as authentic, which will invariably happen, is a real shame as far as the hobby is concerned, but as ebay is evidence of, there's apparently more than one sucker born everyday. This fits right in with the banking industry motto - An Uneducated Consumer Is Our Best Customer -
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