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Old 12-07-2010, 08:18 PM
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This is a Johnny Evers from my collection. A similar single signed one sold in an REA auction some years ago for $1,350.00.

I would guess $12,500+ if placed in a top tier auction house. More if the autos are fully authenticated.

I could be way off but that's my take. Nice piece!!

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Old 12-07-2010, 08:32 PM
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Are they real in the first place? Looks to nice to me, but im not an expert in autos.
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Old 12-07-2010, 08:46 PM
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Frank - a nearly identical envelope signed by 11 of the original 12 (plus honored guests) sold in 2008 for $12,925.00 (see here: http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...2008/1145.html).

I have a feeling that with the economy being a little weaker right now, that this item would fetch in the $10k-$11k range.
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Here it is:
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Thanks Jon, thats the kind of info I was looking for

I think the framed one has much better eye appeal, but that item you show is similar, thanks


PS. Its real, it has an 17 year old COA, and Ive already recommended getting a new one before selling it.


Was first looking for estimates/opinions on overall value of this item today.

...and secondary looking for advise on best place to sell.

thanks Frank

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Old 12-07-2010, 08:58 PM
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Frank - happy to help and I agree the presentation of our friend's is pretty darn nice. I think the only drawback to the piece, as a whole is, that it a $$$5-figure signed envelope which somewhat limits the potential buyers (in other words, someone has to really enjoy the medium).

REA I think, without question, would be the best avenue to sell it in.
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Old 12-07-2010, 09:06 PM
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Frank - one other thing of note. While I can't figure out PSA/DNA's "new" premium item authentication fees that went into effect maybe a year or so ago, I believe that based on the value and number of signatures - that's going to be one expensive piece to authenticate - like around $1000 in fees (please someone correct me if I'm computing this incorrectly). However, if your friend was to consign it - the auction company will most likely bear the authentication costs (REA for example, does).

Something to keep in mind.
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Great piece. I do think the piece would have to be taken out of the frame to authenticate though.

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Thanks Jon, thats the kind of info I was looking for

I think the framed one has much better eye appeal, but that item you show is similar, thanks


PS. Its real, it has an 17 year old COA, and Ive already recommended getting a new one before selling it.


Was first looking for estimates/opinions on overall value of this item today.

...and secondary looking for advise on best place to sell.

thanks Frank

Just curious as to who issued the 17 year-old COA. Can you please advise?
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I would harbor a guess at 15k as an auction estimate!
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Here is a picture of the COA from Nov 1993

As you can see it is expired (10 years) and this piece should be sold with a new one Im sure


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Here is a picture of the COA from Nov 1993

As you can see it is expired (10 years) and this piece should be sold with a new one Im sure

How does a COA "expire? I remember in one of my first "Coach's Corner" videos I spoke about a "Coach's Corner" COA in which "CC" stated that they only guaranteed the autograph to be authentic for twenty-one (21) days after the close of the auction. After twenty-one days the guarantee "expired." What the heck does that mean?
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Id figure 10K on that item.
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Old 12-08-2010, 08:10 AM
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Are you guys looking at the same photo as I am? I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it looks to me like many of the sigs were penned by one person. Maybe all of them were penned by one person. The first sig that caught my eye was that "Walter Johnson." Has anyone certed that piece? All I can say is "OMG!."
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Are you guys looking at the same photo as I am? I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it looks to me like many of the sigs were penned by one person. Maybe all of them were penned by one person. The first sig that caught my eye was that "Walter Johnson." Has anyone certed that piece? All I can say is "OMG!."
This was one I did not want to get involved in, but truth has stated what I was thinking all along, that first cover that started this thread is IMHO not authentic.
Your friend can spend $1000 to send it to PSA but I thought I would save him the money.
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Not to pile on...but I do not believe JSA or PSA will pass this item.
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Let me be the first:

I don't like it.
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I don't like it.
Exactly. Like I wrote a few pages ago "Looks like they are all (at least most of them) penned by one person."
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David - you can be the third .
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David - you can be the third .
We would have been remiss not to say anything about those sigs and I think Richard would agree with that.
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David - you can be the third .
Oops. I posted thinking page 1 was all there was. Didn't see all the posts. (Still got that eye, though. )
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