What is the long-term value of Game-Used cards?

[ctownboy]

To me, the long term value of these type of things is the same as the short term value -ZERO!! That is because I will NEVER spend my money on them.

First, I can not stand the thought that a REAL bat, jersey or whatever was destroyed to make thise type of crap. There were only so many REAL bats or jerseys in existance to begin with and time has taken care of losing or destroying some of those pieces. So, a limited pool of authentic pieces was already reduced and then these clowns come along and DESTROY another piece on purpose.

I have an idea, why don't we try this with an original work by Da Vinci or Shakespeare?

How about we jsut cut up the Magna Carta, the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence?

Those old things shouldn't just be stored in some rich guys vault or in a museum only for a certian select few to be able to own or view. No, they should be available for MORE people.

Well, that is NOT happening to those type of historic items and it shouldn't be happening to baseball pieces either. The people who thought of this should be arrested and jailed for destroying property and the companies should be sued and put out of business.

Also, how can ANYONE know if these are actual pieces of the item they are purported to be? Who is to say a person at the company didn't just go out and find a 100 year old piece of Ash lumber and then take it to a lumber yard and have them plain it down and then shave pieces off of it?

No, I think these are wrong on a number of levels and that the value is ZERO!!

David

[fkw]

Many advanced collectors hate these, including me.

Most collectors who collect new stuff advance into vintage later on, and rarely does a collector of vintage go the other way and collect new stuff again. New stuff is dominated by younger collectors. I read all those boards to learn and dont ever have the urge to buy a new cards.

I dont like mixing vintage cuts with modern bright gaudy cardboard. and they ruined so many nice letters and personal checks full of baseball history cutting them to fit into a new card.

I really hate the vintage game used garbage too... ruining many museum quality bats and uniforms to make a $.

On a related note... Pseudo rare 1/1 which are intentionally made rare wont hold value. They are a limited edition like a beanie baby, collector plate, or Franklin Mint item. Not a true rare item which became rare over time.

A truly rare item has to become rare unintentionally, usually by low production numbers, with most being used and abused and then trashed. ie cards, stamps, comic books, steiff bears, vintage Halloween stuff, beer cans, movie posters, vintage Pez, even hotwheels or tootsietoys.

Everything now days is a limited edition and hoarded in unopened unused condition, no way they hold value IMO

PS Bit OT but I have tootsietoys too

[lancemountain]

I can understand the feelings of "ruining" a Cobb bat for a card, but to be fair.....


Topps can make thousands upon thousands or more cards with a Cobb bat embedded. So yes, a Cobb gamer was destroyed...but instead of being in one person's collection, it is in thousands of baseball fan's cards. It only takes a sliver of the bat for many thousands of collectors to have a piece.

Just mho

[teetwoohsix]

I think we will all be long gone before any of todays modern cards start holding "real value"........100 years from now maybe?

I agree with David and Frank about cutting up bats and letters and all that- just WRONG. All the way around.

But I am not against modern cards using "older card type designs",,,,sort of paying homage to the true classics. Just don't destroy precious artifacts so everyone can get "a crumb".

Clayton

[michael3322]

These are all excellent points guys. Thanks for weighing in.

I'd love to hear someone who collects these cards comment to so that the rest of us can better understand why they are putting their money into these cards. After all, if no one was buying these cards, then they wouldn't be increasing as a percentage of cards sold these days. People ARE buying them and collecting them.