Fro Joy Babe Ruth Cards

[Clutch-Hitter]

In reference to the premiums, Steve's and FKW's opinions regarding the contrast were incorrect. However, they were comparing the Legendary Auctions image, which was over-exposed during the photo/scan process. The second image was resized for comparison purposes.

The Fro Joy Premiums have not been reprinted.

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Both of these Fro Joy premiums were over-exposed to light at the time the photos were taken:

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My premium is pictured above along with the others. Here's another example (photographed my computer screen for this one):

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http://cgi.ebay.com/1928-Fro-Joy-Bab...item23034d8dd4

Note the question for seller near the bottom:

Q: The blue is a reproduction. There are only three complete sets ever graded by PSA of which I own one with premium card. Two sets at PSA 7 and my set at PSA 5. NONE ARE BLUE. THE PREMIUM CARDS ARE NOT BLUE.PSA graded these cards up until about 5 years ago.

A: Just checked the premium and it is a black tint not blue (see photo). Changed tint to black in description. Not sure why I wrote blue. Stockings, belt, inscription and shaded areas are black. Other areas are off-white and gray. Thank you for your help - Norman

Hey seller, you wrote blue because it has blue. The person mis-informing the seller is referring to the blue cards, not the premium. The introduction of blue tinted Fro Joys, of which PSA has holdered some, has led to the notion that the premium does not contain blue. The person telling the seller this has a set of PSA graded Fro Joy cards along with a premium. If the cards are authentic, PSA graded or not, he probably didn't get them from the original owner. Owners of the complete six card set of singles had the option of redeeming them for a premium and a sheet, so unless the original owner had multiple sets of six and redeemed one of his sets, his statement means even less.

The seller changed his description from blue to black because he knows his premium has a hint of blue and the person asking the question destroyed the auction. The blue in the premiums is very, very subtle, but it's there.

Hooray for his set of PSA Fro Joy's!
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[Clutch-Hitter]

I've only been able to locate a photo of one counterfeit factory single, and it was horribly done, as expected:



I have not located a black and white replicard single that allegedly matches the description of an authentic Fro Joy single. The only ones I've located are the singles cut from counterfeit sheets as mentioned previously, and color counterfeits of the singles.

This issue is too important to the history of the hobby and to baseball to let the counterfeiters force us to dismiss it. They're not that good.

I experienced those issues from both sides in December: I purchased a counterfeit card, crack fielder, which was the single cut from a counterfeit sheet mentioned previously (knew it was when I actually held it), and I purchased a premium that was later deemed inauthentic (or altered according to a subsequent e-mail) by a grading company. I never questioned the premium, and I still have it even though I could've sent it back. There are few premiums available, so the chances someone has handled one are slim to none. This one is cropped almost to the photo. I sent a message to REA today requesting they take a look at it.

I was ticked off at the grading company initially, but now, believe it or not, they're my favorite. Through all the research, I've found that they make fewer mistakes than the other two on all issues. It's Beckett BTW.

Sorry to keep bumping this up, but maybe this explains the madness.