Update: Chief Bender Signed T206 W/ Out Trees.

[blackmamba]

Originally Posted by usernamealreadytaken

...in the card. Maybe you can link to your post in the memorabilia section?

Hey, The link is below. There is not that much info given there. I was told to bring the card on here and try to sell it, but not on the memorabilia forum. I have learned i will not post anything intill i have the JSA in hand but i had several people waiting for a picture so i uploaded on here. Sorry for rattling you guys up. There is nothing to worry about. I have done deals on here and have over 100 feedback on other forums, also almost 700 positive feedback on ebay. Thanks Brandon

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=132269

[usernamealreadytaken]

Johnny asked: "While waiting for the LOA you should put the scan in the memorabilia section of the board and see what the auto experts over there think of the sig, they will be able to give some great feedback."

You wrote: Hey, I did a couple weeks back. Had several emails and they said it looks real."

I don't see that you posted any picture(of the card) in the memorabilia section? Don't you have pictures (of the LOA), links, scans, etc. from your purchase of this card? Eager to make strong offer, but disappointed I cannot based on what you have posted...

[blackmamba]

Originally Posted by usernamealreadytaken

Johnny asked: "While waiting for the LOA you should put the scan in the memorabilia section of the board and see what the auto experts over there think of the sig, they will be able to give some great feedback."

You wrote: Hey, I did a couple weeks back. Had several emails and they said it looks real."

I don't see that you posted any picture(of the card) in the memorabilia section? Don't you have pictures (of the LOA), links, scans, etc. from your purchase of this card? Eager to make strong offer, but disappointed I cannot based on what you have posted...

I have no scans of the JSA LOA right now. I had emails and sent them pictures of the card. They said it look real, i said it is real. Comes with JSA LOA. Everyone needs to be patient right now with me. This snow storm really messed up mailing service in Tulsa. Once i have it, i will post the LOA on here for everyone to see. Thank you. I will get back to you all. Brandon.

[MooseWithFleas]

I find it interesting that Bender signed the card "Chief" when he had a known dislike for that moniker.

Brandon I do not like being called a liar or cheat so I am posting those horrible PM's. I will not allow you to mislead and make a butt of me for you own cover. Who has ever bought something like this with a LOA, with out getting a pic or the cert numbers. You obviously got it from online hence the need to mail the COA. So you must have gotten a scan of the card as well as seen the LOA or the cert numbers before buying right So enough already. I am not the only person that questions you and your validity.


Here are the pm's I have for your enjoyment gentlemen:


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what are you asking for the card. Are you looking to trade and cash for the bender T206 auto

I have an offer of $2,000. Looking for offers. I do not collect card anymore. Thanks

If you have an offer of 2K you better take it. At that price it is way out of what I have seen some autoed T206s in that condition sell for with harder to get autos. Since I do not pursue these its not that big of a deal for me. Best of luck on the sale.

Andrew

Hey Andrew, I was thinking the same thing but i have several experts telling me that i should not sell it for that. Just wait. Signed T206 are rare and this could be the only one that exist. Thanks Brandon

Just did a quick search. There was a lot of 8 autoed common t206's sold for about $2600 with a bender no trees 3 yrs back. A cobb green portrait in vg-ex for $3800, and another lot of 6 extremely rare HOF'ers for $6900. That card is probably worth about $250-$400 tops. Just my opinion based on market sales. Condition is everything. I would like to make an offer but no where near the 2k mark.

Hmmm, where are you getting this info? I have seen a Ty cobb red portrait went for $30k and some commons go for $500-800 range. Where did you find that Chief Bender at??? Thanks

It was heritage and mastro and some others.

Got the link of the Bender and Cobb? Thanks


Thing is anyone can tell you to price a card like that but none of them made an offer did they?? Should be a sign that its to high. I have learned that lesson many times. I have the only ray brubaker auto known in the hobby on a 1920's zeenut a few yrs before he died and its only worth about $30-50.

I am sorry it was 3 cheif meyers and 2 hoblitzells and a few others all in vg-ex to exmt.
http://www.huntauctions.com/online/i...=630&lot_qual=

and here is that beautiful cobb
http://www.huntauctions.com/online/i...664&lot_qual=a

Thank you. That Cobb went for a great deal.! Anyways I might take the $2,000 but might wait a little bit to see if anyone can beat it. Thanks

I have 4 Legit offers. $1200, 2 $1500 offers and $2000. Those arn't what someone told me to price them at. I do know what your talking about though. I am not in that position right now.

And just for giggles some pics of benders autos.

[David R]

Originally Posted by Pup6913

And just for giggles some pics of benders autos.

I am no autograph expert but to me at least the "h" and "f" in Chief in your examples look different than the ones on the card.

[shimozukawa]

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[CMIZ5290]

SHIMO- YOU ARE UNBELIEVABLE! WHEN IS ENOUGH, ENOUGH? YOU WERE ALSO THE ONE THAT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO QUESTIONED ME SELLING A PSA 9MC 1953 TOPPS MANTLE! YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT IT WAS ALREADY GRADED! I SAID IN MY COMMENTS OF THE CARD THAT IT HAD ALL THE CHARACTERISTICS OF A STRAIGHT PSA 9, BUT YOU COULD SAVE $70K IN PRICE BECAUSE OF THE QUALIFIER. YOU REPLIED TO ME, WHY GIVE UP $70k? JUST GET THE CARD GRADED! DOES THAT RING A BELL?? GET ON WITH LIFE

[shimozukawa]

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[Jaybird]

I have to agree that Shimo is on a bit of a witch hunt. I understand that one of the great things about this forum is that we call people to task and point out the vagaries of the hobby.

However, this is a bit over the top. Let's just either wait for Brandon to respond or let it die.

I also find it more than a bit unnerving that Shimo is doing the nitpicking considering that he never responded to the question of his numerous bid retractions on ebay which is certainly a questionable practice. I've been on ebay for 10 years and don't think I've ever retracted a bid. I feel like I'm seeing rocks hurled from the proverbial glass house.

[lharri3600]

Ouch!!

Originally Posted by jaybird

i have to agree that shimo is on a bit of a witch hunt. I understand that one of the great things about this forum is that we call people to task and point out the vagaries of the hobby.

However, this is a bit over the top. Let's just either wait for brandon to respond or let it die.

I also find it more than a bit unnerving that shimo is doing the nitpicking considering that he never responded to the question of his numerous bid retractions on ebay which is certainly a questionable practice. I've been on ebay for 10 years and don't think i've ever retracted a bid. I feel like i'm seeing rocks hurled from the proverbial glass house.

[shimozukawa]

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[terjung]

Originally Posted by shimozukawa

As for the witch hunt, Brandon and I are discussing it via PMs. He said he's not going to respond in this thread anymore, so I see no point to posting anymore in it either.

Does that mean that he has no JSA LOA for the Bender card?

[kcohen]

I've been wondering at what point, if any, some of this side noise constitutes interference with a potential BST transaction.