Really Neat 2011 Topps Subset

[sb1]

Not a fan. Just something else for someone to attempt to make artificially aged cards and such. In some ways it takes away from the value of the real thing in my opinion.

Does Topps have or need the "rights" to use these images??

[novakjr]

I'm sorry, but Topps is honestly starting to make me sick. Literally.

[rhettyeakley]

The problem I have with these newer reprint cards is that sellers on ebay always put them in the pre-war category and they screw up all the searches because now I have to search through all this junk.

Example, try searching for Obak's and all you get is the Tri-star crap from the last year or so. Annoying!

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

The problem I have with these newer reprint cards is that sellers on ebay always put them in the pre-war category and they screw up all the searches because now I have to search through all this junk.

Example, try searching for Obak's and all you get is the Tri-star crap from the last year or so. Annoying!

I've encountered this problem a million times. It makes me wanna strangle someone...I didn't find out until recently that you can exclude certain keywords from your searches. Since then, the problem hasn't really been all that bad. Sure, there's still some crap to sort through, but it's been drastically decreased.

[Leon]

If it gets the youngsters into collecting, and being interested in vintage, then I don't have an issue with it. To each their own though.....

I would think that if someone bought one of those cards and really liked it they might try to acquire the real thing...

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by Leon

If it gets the youngsters into collecting, and being interested in vintage, then I don't have an issue with it. To each their own though.....

I would think that if someone bought one of those cards and really liked it they might try to acquire the real thing...

I'm pretty sure we all that's not Topps' intention though..Topps has been milking the Archives/heritage/reprint thing for what, 17 years now?

[carrigansghost]

Wasn't it Topps that did the "vintage" cards in the 1976 set with the all time leaders?

Rawn

[E93]

Originally Posted by Leon

If it gets the youngsters into collecting, and being interested in vintage, then I don't have an issue with it. To each their own though.....

I would think that if someone bought one of those cards and really liked it they might try to acquire the real thing...

I agree. They aren't my thing, but if they help turn on a younger generation to vintage stuff, I say, "Right on."
JimB

[shimozukawa]

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[dstudeba]

Originally Posted by shimozukawa

I'm not an expert with copyright law, but I recall there being a use rights limitation of 50 years. As such, these images would be outside of copyright. Also, the way this affect forgeries is mostly related to trademarks and dates. I think it's technically not illegal to reprint a card outside the 50 year marker, but the reproduction of any TM or C or R would be a violation of use of an unassigned trademark or something to that effect.

Again, my years might be wrong, but that's what I remember.

I am not a lawyer, but pretty much if it was made before a Disney asset existed it is public domain. After a Disney asset it is protected. Copyright works before 1923 are public domain. For the Goudeys etc. Topps might own the rights, or there might not be anyone around to defend them.

[rnisly]

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by sb1

Not a fan. Just something else for someone to attempt to make artificially aged cards and such. In some ways it takes away from the value of the real thing in my opinion.

Aren't all these cards glossy? Wouldn't it be near impossible to artificially age them?

[Orioles1954]

I suppose the unitiated to the product line will automatically reject the concept. The subset reprints are standard size with no gloss. On the reverse, there is a brief history of the set and manufacturer. Geeesh, if Topps issued hundred dollar bills in every pack of their product I suppose there would be some complainers. I have pulled a couple of these cards and it is very tastefully done. The history of the set on the reverse is a very nice touch. Well done Topps!

[Ease]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

Geeesh, if Topps issued hundred dollar bills in every pack of their product I suppose there would be some complainers.

+1

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

I suppose the unitiated to the product line will automatically reject the concept. The subset reprints are standard size with no gloss. On the reverse, there is a brief history of the set and manufacturer. Geeesh, if Topps issued hundred dollar bills in every pack of their product I suppose there would be some complainers. I have pulled a couple of these cards and it is very tastefully done. The history of the set on the reverse is a very nice touch. Well done Topps!

I don't normally buy new product ever, but last night I was in the party store buying stuff for my daughter's upcoming first birthday and saw they had 2010 baseball cards at 50 cents/pack..they had an unopened box of 24 so I bought it...there were a bunch of classic Topps cards from the past inserted randomly in packs...they were all glossy...still pretty cool though.

[barrysloate]

I think Topps should leave these cards alone and stick to players of the current year. There are plenty of places today where new collectors can find images of old cards. This stuff is just junk, and a lot of it it will end up on ebay.

[53Browns]

Gag!!!!

[pitchernut]

needs a listing for "modern vintage reproductions" and what is with the '59 topps in pre-war. sorry about the rant but these new cards have cluttered up things a bit...

[powderfinger]

While I have nothing against new collectors being introduced to the hobby, these cards are not 1911 T05 cards as they are described by their sellers. Just searched up 1911 T205 on eBay and 20 of the first 50 offerings were for these newly issued cards. Just more stuff to plow through.

[M's_Fan]

You can exclude anything from your ebay search by putting a dash in front of the word. So by typing in "-Topps" you exclude anything with topps in the title. That's how you get rid of the clutter. I also exclude -reprint -reprints and -rp from every one of my searches.

You want to be careful excluding words though. For example, even though I collect SGC cards, it doesn't make sense to exclude -PSA because many SGC sellers put the PSA equivalent grade in the title of the listing.

This also means your searches become more detailed and a pain to type in every time, so you have to click on the "save search" button near the top of the page after the search has been executed. Then you go into My eBay and click on "Saved Searches" and you have a list of all your favorite searches. This also allows you to have your favorite searches from any computer by logging into ebay.