Beware Carterscards2006

[nolemmings]

Phil, I received the card on 2/7. I sent it by registered mail on the 8th. It was received on the 14th, delivery having been attempted the preceding Saturday. It was mailed by SGC on the 15th, and I received it back yesterday afternoon (although had I not been home, it would still not have been delivered). That is the chronology. I don't appreciate the tone and implication that I have not been honest. If you don't like the explanation, tough @#$%.

[pgellis]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Phil, I received the card on 2/7. I sent it by registered mail on the 8th. It was received on the 14th, delivery having been attempted the preceding Saturday. It was mailed by SGC on the 15th, and I received it back yesterday afternoon (although had I not been home, it would still not have been delivered). That is the chronology. I don't appreciate the tone and implication that I have not been honest. If you don't like the explanation, tough shit.

So it took 4 days to get to SGC and you wanted to be timely in "fairness to the seller", then why send it via donkey to SGC? Why not overnight it?

It's wonderful that you can detect "tone and implication" from printed text.

[nolemmings]

Because SGC requires cards of a certain value to be sent by registered mail, and I had other cards in the order. Good enough for ya? I registered my complaint to the seller one week from receiving the cards, is that unfair?
And yes I do believe your tone and words to be inquisitorial, and I suspect others here do as well.

[pgellis]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Because SGC requires cards of a certain value to be sent by registered mail, and I had other cards in the order. Good enough for ya? I registered my complaint to the seller one week from receiving the cards, is that unfair?
And yes I do believe your tone and words to be inquisitorial, and I suspect others here do as well.

How do you detect tone from a post made up of words?

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Because SGC requires cards of a certain value to be sent by registered mail, and I had other cards in the order.

I've got no dog in this entertaining fight and have no opinion on who's right or who's wrong, but I've always interpreted that SGC requires cards of a certain value to be returned to the owner by registered mail. It's my understanding that the submitter can send them to SGC any way that he or she wants. (And this isn't to suggest Todd mailed them to SGC in a right or wrong way.)

[bobbyw8469]

If thereafter it was cracked out, submitted to PSA or Beckett and returned with a number grade I would not bid on it at any price.

Then basically you are saying that SGC is the premiere grader and all other graders are second tier. I have several examples personally of SGC mistakes that they have made. Would you like me to share them with you?

[oldjudge]

D Bergin-At worst Scott and Leon are out $1000 and have the card. That is the worst case.

Normal transaction: They pay the consignor $1000, the get paid $1125 by the buyer, and the buyer gets the card. Net $125.

Worst Case (Pay consignor, card returned, and cannot recover money from consignor): They have paid consignor $1000, they get paid $1125 by the buyer, the return $1125 to buyer, they have the card. Net-they are out $1000 and have the card.

The worst case is a low probability situation since, even if the consignor was paid, the auction house can request the money back from a consignor if the lot proves to have a problem. In Todd's case he found the problem quickly and this would have not been an issue.
Regardless, I would expect this from a responsible seller or auction house. If I thought I would be treated otherwise I would not deal with that entity.

[bobbyw8469]

If I thought I would be treated otherwise I would not deal with that entity.

Then I guess you aren't bidding on ANY of the auction houses cards (REA, Memory Lane, Mile High, etc), because EVERY SINGLE auction house has a clause relating to resubmitting already graded cards.