Demmitt / O'Hara / Cobb - a survey of T206s

[wonkaticket]

All 4 Cobbs and Demmit and O'Hara.

All 3 are tough in there own way..finding a centered Green Cobb is a lot tougher than one would think.

As for Demmitt & O'Hara not easy to find but can be done. However trying to find anything clean VGEX or better is super tough IMO. Look at most peoples set or near sets and for the most part you will see these cards well below the avg. grade vs. the other cards that they have.

[Mikehealer]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

finding a centered Green Cobb is a lot tougher than one would think.

That's true. And you seem to have found a real beauty.

[tedzan]

Approximately 95 % of the Green Cobb cards that have the PIEDMONT 150 back are off-center as mine is (shown here). If centering
of this T206 Cobb is important to you, then look for a PIEDMONT 350, or SOVEREIGN 150, or SWEET CAPORAL 150/350, or OLD MILL,
or Brown HINDU..........Note..SOVEREIGN 350 does not exist.









TED Z

[wonkaticket]

Ted,

In regards to Green Cobb not so sure on the 95% number perhaps you meant for the most part or in your experience unless you have add 100% of all P150 Cobb’s...

As for Brown Hindu unless you found something we all should know about including yourself I would know if they are centered or not as I’m pretty sure they don’t exist. I even think you agree.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127039

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...red+hindu+cobb

Besides your list here are some other reasons for my thinking on them.

I know of or have heard of the single examples of the Bat On Green Port that are in a private collection. I’m very inclined to believe these are re-backed cards. I think these were from the Gary Moser days of card re-backs. Gary Moser also sold other cards such as Green Cobb with a Red Hindu back LOL…and the Red Port with a Drum card that was another proven re-back that the Levi’s got scammed on.

Let’s think about this at least a dozen Johnson Ports or Young Ports but only one of bat on and green Cobb’s.

In almost 12-15 years not a single Cobb green or bat on has surfaced? Not one?

Anyways we can chat in detail at Oakes look forward to seeing you.

Cheers,

John

P.S. Don’t forget to bring that new sweet AB460 looking forward to flipping thru.

[FrankWakefield]

Thank you to all who have responded to the poll. And thanks for responding to the thread.

As I post this, 102 folks participated in the poll.

27/102 or 26%, of the folks responding have Demmitt and O'Hara.
48/102, or 47% of the folks responding have a green Cobb.


That's along the lines of what I predicted, that more of us here would have a green Cobb than would have both Demmitt and O'Hara.

Of course Cobb being a top tier HOFer isn't the only reason that would be so. Another reason would be that there are fewer Demmitt's and O'Hara's out there.

Still, it seems to me that a green Cobb sells for more than a Demmitt or an O'Hara. So that isn't driven just by the supply of cards out there, but by a greater demand for the more plentiful green Cobb card.

[tedzan]

YOU PASSED THE TEST !

I threw that "Brown HINDU" Cobb out there to see how long it would take before someone caught me on this ?

I took 2 hrs and 19 mins.....very slow response.

Yes, I have previously posted that I don't think ATC Factory #649 (Rochester, NY) ever inserted a T206 Cobb,
or a T205 Cobb in their HINDU cigarette packs. See these threads......

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...red+hindu+cobb

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...red+hindu+cobb


In the Summer of 1911, Factory #649 finally included Cobb (T201 cards) in their MECCA packs.

Anyhow, I'm pleased that you caught it. But, I'm not certain what you meant by this comment. Please clarify ?

" In regards to Green Cobb not so sure on the 95% number perhaps you meant for the most part or in your
experience unless you have add 100% of all P150 Cobb’s..."


Regards,

TED Z

[Abravefan11]

I believe a Red Cobb - Red Hindu should exist. There were valid reasons to be skeptical of the one that sold at auction but it's my belief it is a good front back combo.

[wonkaticket]

Tim,

I agree Red Cobb is a super print so it could be out there.

The last one due to the connection to the previous owner and dare I say winner were questionable at best.

So if a Red Hindu Red port of Cobb popped up and was looked over by multiple folks to be real that is a card we may see in our collecting lifetimes.

Cheers,

John