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03-14-2011, 06:13 PM
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Nice cards Doug. It is hard to really tell from the scans, but from my experience with SGC, it looks like the Cobb and Johnson were graded pretty accurately. Depending on the wrinkle, it does appear that the Cobb could have received a 3, nothing higher though.
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03-14-2011, 06:17 PM
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I have seen numerous T206s that look like the Johnson in 60 holders.
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03-14-2011, 06:22 PM
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The Johnson is a 4 or a 5, the Cobb a 2 or a 3. Stop whining and go back to PSA.
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03-14-2011, 06:23 PM
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I think the Johnson corners do not deserve a 60 close but not there.
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03-14-2011, 06:44 PM
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Perhaps you should have trimmed them first.
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03-14-2011, 08:53 PM
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03-14-2011, 09:53 PM
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You can post scans all night long, but the standards are supposed to be:
http://www.sgccard.com/grading_scale.htm
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03-14-2011, 10:10 PM
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Well,
Well, I'm not going to take sides on what these cards should've graded but I must say that I am really annoyed with the recent spate of cards on eBay in which the seller lists a TPG grades but puts in title "Looks like a (blank)"....
While I understand there are many cards undergraded in ;ow grade slabs it has gone waayyyy too far with sellers basically ignoring TPG grades, etc. and claiming cards "looks NM" even though they reside in a VG slab with a huge crease. 9/10 times the TPG gave the low-grade card for a reason... I think there is a tendency for everyone to think their card is undergraded reminiscent of a parent who thinks their butt ugly kid looks Grace Kelley or Brad Pitt.
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03-14-2011, 06:29 PM
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Yeah, definitely go back to PSA, they really grade cards accurately.
 
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03-14-2011, 06:35 PM
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i'd take a t206 demmitt over that cobb (probably a 3 tho)
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03-14-2011, 06:42 PM
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Jeffrey, do you work for SGC? You seem very upset. This was not my intention. If I offended you in any way, I'm sorry. I justed wanted some feedback on normal sgc grading as the diferance in a cobb 2 or 3 is several hundred dollars.
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03-14-2011, 06:46 PM
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03-14-2011, 06:49 PM
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03-14-2011, 06:52 PM
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Doug, I don't work for SGC but I find it annoying when people run on the board with fairly graded cards (either SGC or PSA) and whine about how unfairly they were treated. As Todd pointed out, they're the same cards prior to you getting them slabbed and you liked them just fine then. I routinely feel like I get the shaft upon submitting cards...but it is what it is. And I'm not down on PSA as I have thousands of cards graded by them including some high grade vintage sets.
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03-14-2011, 06:26 PM
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First of all Doug, those are nice cards. They look the same now as they did before you had them graded, which is to say they looked nice and I assume you were happy with them. I wouldn't get too bummed about your first submission.
I would tend to agree with what others have posted. I would not expect a card with a 1/2 inch "wrinkle" (read minor crease) across the image to receive any higher than a 3 on its best day. As for the Johnson, your scans are a bit blurry to these tired old eyes, but it looks like there might be some discoloration in that upper left corner. If not, I could maybe see that card grabbing a 60 on its best day, but the corners are a bit too rounded to call that a sure thing, and a 70 is a big stretch, IMO. Compare a Polar Bear WaJo PSA 4 on ebay right now--it has sharper corners and similar centering to yours with minor discoloration typical of that ad back. IMO, that card is accurately graded, and it too is very nice. I know folks here are biased a little toward SGC, but I don't think you got a bum deal. I'd give them another shot or two.
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