Should All Questionable Auctions Go in One Thread?

slidekellyslide · #1 03-21-2011, 03:52 PM

I think it might be best if questionable items had their own forum, but I'm not sure Leon is up for that...I know I get annoyed by the fake Wagner T-206 threads that pop up on the card side all the time...if all that stuff could go in one forum that'd be okay with me.

thekingofclout · #2 03-21-2011, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I think it might be best if questionable items had their own forum, but I'm not sure Leon is up for that...I know I get annoyed by the fake Wagner T-206 threads that pop up on the card side all the time...if all that stuff could go in one forum that'd be okay with me.

it's all you Dan were Leon's exact words Dan. I think it's a fair solution for all parties involved. Let's give it a try.

Sincerely, Jimmy

pscolgrafs · #3 03-21-2011, 05:54 PM

It will hamper searches. Leave well enough alone (IMO) as there isn't that much of a difference between yes and no.

CC thread alone, good idea.

thekingofclout · #4 03-21-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pscolgrafs

It will hamper searches. Leave well enough alone (IMO) as there isn't that much of a difference between yes and no.

CC thread alone, good idea.

A 20% margin shouldn't be dismissed with "there isn't that much of a difference between yes and no"

slidekellyslide · #5 03-21-2011, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by thekingofclout

it's all you Dan were Leon's exact words Dan. I think it's a fair solution for all parties involved. Let's give it a try.

Sincerely, Jimmy

Jimmy, I can pretty much do with the memorabilia board as I see fit, but adding a new forum is not up to me.

thekingofclout · #6 03-21-2011, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Jimmy, I can pretty much do with the memorabilia board as I see fit, but adding a new forum is not up to me.

My bad Dan. Was just responding to what Leon wrote.

Leon · #7 03-21-2011, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I think it might be best if questionable items had their own forum, but I'm not sure Leon is up for that...I know I get annoyed by the fake Wagner T-206 threads that pop up on the card side all the time...if all that stuff could go in one forum that'd be okay with me.

Hey now

The cards side is under my tutelage. For the time being I like the way it is. I am on the board frequently enough that if something gets out of hand (as in too much of anything), I can politely ask to minimize whatever it is that is happening too much. There are a ton of newbies and fakes/alterations/fraud are some of the biggest issues in the hobby, so more threads about them isn't necessarily a bad thing, imo. If a few people get saved (and I am positive it's more than a few already) then we have done a service for our hobby and therefore ourselves as collectors.

regards

Leon · #8 03-21-2011, 07:07 PM

Adding another forum is not something I really want to do. When I said it's up to Dan, I honestly wasn't talking (nor did I know you think so Dan) about changing the characteristics of the board itself and adding or subtracting to what we have.

danc · #9 03-21-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by thekingofclout

A 20% margin shouldn't be dismissed with "there isn't that much of a difference between yes and no"

I don't think that the difference is that big of a deal either.

It's not like there's an uproar where the ratio is completely slated in favor one way or another (like 8-1 or 10-1), and we're mulling over drastic ideas like forming another forum?

DanC

slidekellyslide · #10 03-21-2011, 11:03 PM

I'm still mulling it over...there seems to be pretty good discussion both ways.

steve B · #11 03-22-2011, 07:47 AM

If we do a whole new section, maybe make it a "general negativity" section. A place for all the fake stuff, dodgy sellers, horrid Ebay policies etc. Sort of like Craigslist rants and raves section, but mostly rants.

I think it would get full pretty quickly, and be ignored almost instantly by most of the people with lots of knowledge.

I'm not a new collector at all, but there are a few areas that I'm just not involved with - Some from a lack of funds, some from a lack of serious interest. But I do read the threads and learn about them.

Stuff I've learned the last 7 days or so

WS rings seem easier to fake than I'd thought.
WS rings were at one time a one size fits all sort of thing
How to spot a really bad fake Mickey Mantle autograph
How one player had 2 very different signatures
A few new ways to get rid of cigarette odors from paper goods
What a real LSU lettermen Jacket looks like
And that autos on a card from a major company may not be as sure a thing as I'd thought.
Various stuff about Orcajo postcards
saw the original ads for Baseball bats cards and colgans chips
Learned just what 14K of restoration will buy on a Wagner card

And probably some other stuff. Of the things above, I have a couple Orcajos, and a few colgans. I'll probably never find a WS ring in my price range, and I'm not terribly interested in buying a Mantle Auto. But I file the info away because someday I may run across one, and It's good to know I can spot the worst fakes.

I know the recurring posts of this sort of stuff are a nuisance to the guys who specialize, but I think for most of us they're worthwhile.

How about US all collectively increasing the percentage of positive posts? I'll do a couple later today or tomorrow, depending on when the baby lets me take a few pictures.

Steve B

thekingofclout · #12 03-22-2011, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve B

If we do a whole new section, maybe make it a "general negativity" section. A place for all the fake stuff, dodgy sellers, horrid Ebay policies etc. Sort of like Craigslist rants and raves section, but mostly rants.

I think it would get full pretty quickly, and be ignored almost instantly by most of the people with lots of knowledge.

I'm not a new collector at all, but there are a few areas that I'm just not involved with - Some from a lack of funds, some from a lack of serious interest. But I do read the threads and learn about them.

Stuff I've learned the last 7 days or so

WS rings seem easier to fake than I'd thought.
WS rings were at one time a one size fits all sort of thing
How to spot a really bad fake Mickey Mantle autograph
How one player had 2 very different signatures
A few new ways to get rid of cigarette odors from paper goods
What a real LSU lettermen Jacket looks like
And that autos on a card from a major company may not be as sure a thing as I'd thought.
Various stuff about Orcajo postcards
saw the original ads for Baseball bats cards and colgans chips
Learned just what 14K of restoration will buy on a Wagner card

And probably some other stuff. Of the things above, I have a couple Orcajos, and a few colgans. I'll probably never find a WS ring in my price range, and I'm not terribly interested in buying a Mantle Auto. But I file the info away because someday I may run across one, and It's good to know I can spot the worst fakes.

I know the recurring posts of this sort of stuff are a nuisance to the guys who specialize, but I think for most of us they're worthwhile.

How about US all collectively increasing the percentage of positive posts? I'll do a couple later today or tomorrow, depending on when the baby lets me take a few pictures.

Steve B

That's an outstanding post Steve. Terrific well thought out points from top to bottom. My best, Jimmy

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