JSA Story on Autographalert.com

[PhilNap]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

The crucial thing, though, as Rhys pointed out, is that the third parties do not stand behind their opinions in any way.

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

No. She should buy from a reputable dealer, one who has "studied for years," and who fully guarantees his wares.

No third party required.

This is not always true. I had a good experience where PSA made good on a 9 year old mistake to the tune of $900.00.

And the piece in question was purchased (already authenticated by PSA) from a so-called reputable dealer, who despite his written guaranty refused to offer a refund. Had Joe Orlando not stepped in I would not have been made whole.

[David Atkatz]

Well, it was very nice of him to do that. But PSA's small print says they are in no way legally required to do so. When that small print is removed, and Mr Orlando puts into writing that he will guarantee PSA's opinion for every customer, I'll change my tune.

[Big Dave]

Read the story earlier and it is amazing. Sure does cast JSA in a very poor light.

[Scott Garner]

Interesting serve and volley in this thread guys....
Thanks!

[Mr. Zipper]

One can't help but wonder about the motives of the people running the referenced web site. It certainly appears that they wish to destroy and/or completely delegitimize PSA and JSA. And now it appears the new Autograph Quarterly magazine is backed by the same concerns and will be preaching a parallel message.

While they are admittedly far from perfect, does anyone really think the hobby would be better off without TPAs entirely?

Wouldn't constructive dialog and criticism be a better approach than an attack web site run by [supposedly] anonymous parties?

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

While they are admittedly far from perfect, does anyone really think the hobby would be better off without TPAs entirely?

I do!

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

I do!

How did I know you would say that?!?!?

[Redsoxrule]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

One can't help but wonder about the motives of the people running the referenced web site. It certainly appears that they wish to destroy and/or completely delegitimize PSA and JSA. And now it appears the new Autograph Quarterly magazine is backed by the same concerns and will be preaching a parallel message.

While they are admittedly far from perfect, does anyone really think the hobby would be better off without TPAs entirely?

Wouldn't constructive dialog and criticism be a better approach than an attack web site run by [supposedly] anonymous parties?

Right you are zipper
Kevin Martin's selling venue : http://www.russoandsteele.com/memorabilia.html worth a close look

Is "Sharpie" Steve Koschal?

IS "Paul Sturgis" Todd Mueller ?

Travis Roste is one of the main posters along with sharpie and sturgis

[Piedmont Sport]

Look close at what everyone flip flops on - JSA and PSA have become such a Huge presence - many employees and they show up at lots of locations - Card shows - Home visits - Resturants for 2500.00 - they will show up. Now we come to the educated collector/authenicater - We all want special attention to our items that we sell or collect - we don't want the factory feel that we get at JSA and PSA - I would like to recommand 2 people i recently started using - both pick up the phone - both are masters in there field and give you the sense of security we all look for. Kevin Keating and Richard Simon - at a recent convention i showed a 39 Giants Team signed ball to Kevin and he explained the Greenburg auto being early and a little different - JSA did not like it - gave him the ball and i received the ball and cert back within a few days. ---------------- I called Richard Simon sent him clear scans of a few items and he was back to me within 24 hours - i'm now sending him the items for final review - Class Act -
It's always best to know what your looking at - but many times i look for a second set of eyes - hard to trust anyone after what were all reading.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Redsoxrule

Right you are zipper
opinon of someone in the know:
Owner of the site and the Magazine= Kevin Martin aka "s. Eugene Xidas" a man with a notorious past: http://www.russoandsteele.com/memorabilia.html worth a close look

"Sharpie" and perhaps 2 or three other names like "i Love Autographs"= Steve Koschal. Just google him to see what a wonderful guy he is

"Paul Sturgis" and a few other names = Todd Mueller who is supposed to have been kicked off ebay twice according to some sources

others like perhaps "without name" are Christopher Morales ofr J. Gladstone of ARA

Travis Roste, formally a good guy and somewhat respected is now in with that crowd and a Coaches Corner fan?


so it is half a dozen guys beating up respected dealers and authenticators,because they themselves are not so respected

wow how the mighty have fallen

Redsoxrule,
Read the rules please. You are more than welcome to say this but your name has to be in your post. You can either edit out your comments or put your name by them. Certainly nothing personal and same rules are for everyone. Thanks for your cooperation. PM me if there is anything you don't understand or want to talk about off line. regards