Goodwin Auction is open + Peck & Snyder Discussion

[barrysloate]

Mark had the card in his possession for around ten years, from roughly 1985 to 1995. John Thorn may have seen it once. I am going to go with Mark's memory on this one. Yes, it is tattered, but I believe the back was printed with the card.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Mark had the card in his possession for around ten years, from roughly 1985 to 1995. John Thorn may have seen it once. I am going to go with Mark's memory on this one. Yes, it is tattered, but I believe the back was printed with the card.

Hey Barry or Corey,
Have either of ya'll, or anyone in this thread, ever seen another 19th century card with the back printed anything like that?
Great discussion, by the way.

[benjulmag]

Originally Posted by Leon

Hey Barry or Corey,
Have either of ya'll, or anyone in this thread, ever seen another 19th century card with the back printed anything like that?
Great discussion, by the way.

Leon, off the top of my head, no, at least in regard to detailed biographical info. But with exception of pirate cards, to my knowledge all trade cards, cdvs and cabinet cards have something printed on the verso. So printing a detailed biography would not be a difficult task.

[aaroncc]

Originally Posted by Leon

Hey Barry or Corey,
Have either of ya'll, or anyone in this thread, ever seen another 19th century card with the back printed anything like that?
Great discussion, by the way.

I have seen boxing trade cards similar to this back. The back of this Stevengraph of John L. Sullivan is similar as well depicting the bio on the back of the mount.

[Joe_G.]

While not common, I have seen the back of 19th century cabinet mounts contain print specific to the photo on front. I have an 1886 cabinet of a baseball game in progress with printed information about the game on back.

[sb1]

I believe that you will find there is a big difference in back printing on "trade cards" and CDV's. CDV's generally have little info other a photographers info as he wanted to sell more of them. Trade cards were for the merchants benefit to advertise and generally have a lot more information.

I think this card if in fact is 1 piece and not glued together has been severely cut down and could in fact be from a larger size trade card from 10-20 years after the death of Creighton. It has no resemblance of a CDV circa 1860-1870's.

Scott

[RickGallway]

Another Creighton surfaces in NY Library:

Hidden Treasure Discovered in NYPL’s Spalding Collection

[benjulmag]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Mark had the card in his possession for around ten years, from roughly 1985 to 1995. John Thorn may have seen it once. I am going to go with Mark's memory on this one. Yes, it is tattered, but I believe the back was printed with the card.

I am reasonably certain that is correct. The fact that I have no vivid memory of anything peculiar about the verso suggests the bio was printed onto the card. Had it instead been pasted on, that is something I believe would have stood out about the card and stayed in my memory.