Beantown Find. the story...

[wonkaticket]

"Steve's no dummy, though, so I'm sure these lots have been through examination and even he says that most of the money has been made "off-line" through local sales. He's a good salesman and knows what he has."

Jay I agree I don't think Steve's missing cards or getting burned. But now I'm even more confused, this is what makes me think Steve may be missing some cash. I’ve been on a tear as of late buying cards and pretty significant $ cards at that.

I missed the only really EX or so lot listed because it was up and gone in hours. Now I have been patiently waiting per Steve’s direction to hang in there if you will more to come. But from the sound of Steve’s statement above it sounds as the bulk of the bigger dollar stuff, the very stuff I would be interested in was sold offline?

Steve, will there be any significant dollar higher end lots EX+ or better lots for sale in the BST in the near future? Will there be any oddballs/obscurities or scarce cards Demmit, O’Hara in EX+ listed in the BST. Tougher backs BL, Brown Old Mill, Lenox any of these? Or has most of this been brokered offline.

Not busting your chops just would love to be able to offer coin too but it’s hard to do so not knowing what is available and when it may come, and for these reasons is why I think you may be missing out just a bit.

That’s all I’m saying.

John

[Leon]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

"Steve's no dummy, though, so I'm sure these lots have been through examination and even he says that most of the money has been made "off-line" through local sales. He's a good salesman and knows what he has."

Jay I agree I don't think Steve's missing cards or getting burned. But now I'm even more confused, this is what makes me think Steve may be missing some cash. I’ve been on a tear as of late buying cards and pretty significant $ cards at that.

I missed the only really EX or so lot listed because it was up and gone in hours. Now I have been patiently waiting per Steve’s direction to hang in there if you will more to come. But from the sound of Steve’s statement above it sounds as the bulk of the bigger dollar stuff, the very stuff I would be interested in was sold offline?

Steve, will there be any significant dollar higher end lots EX+ or better lots for sale in the BST in the near future? Will there be any oddballs/obscurities or scarce cards Demmit, O’Hara in EX+ listed in the BST. Tougher backs BL, Brown Old Mill, Lenox any of these? Or has most of this been brokered offline.

Not busting your chops just would love to be able to offer coin too but it’s hard to do so not knowing what is available and when it may come, and for these reasons is why I think you may be missing out just a bit.

That’s all I’m saying.

John

Now that part I agree with. It would be nice if the better stuff was also posted, not just what has been picked through and sold before we see the lots. But that is just the collector in me and Steve can do what he wants. I think any collector would feel the same way. I doubt the brokered lots were steals but it would be nice to see the lots BEFORE someone else grabbed the best stuff. See John, we can agree on some things

[wonkaticket]

Leon,

We agree on more than you know, now if we can agree on a place to eat in Oaks and bet on how long it will take Dan McKee to order something healthy and then eat my fried plate of food over drinks will have even more in common. You owe me fried fish McKee!

I'm not looking for deals either I want Steve and the old lady to bank here if they can I love capitalism!


If it's good stuff I will pay good cash there are many folks on here that can back me up on this statement.

We normally don’t discuss or ever type this type of info on here...but this past month alone we dropped 20k or more on about 5-7 cards all T206s. I also am following Steve's lead which was to hang in there stuff is coming, don’t chase me wait your turn and offer I respect that.

So I hang back, my first concern which I and Greg raised was something we would bid on hits the BST and is gone while I'm taking a guy like you to lunch Leon.

Now my second concern or confusion is I keep hitting the BST waiting for that higher end lot and it may not be coming, and I and others who the only way we can follow this sale is via the BST never even got a chance to offer. Never going to claim I will beat all prices or win everything but I can 100% guarantee that I would make that much more expensive for the next guy if given the chance and I’m sure I’m not alone.

Hope this makes sense. On separate note kudos and congrats to Steve having had a big find as a kid of around 1500+ T206’s it’s really something to pour over them when they are like that. It really is something I wish happens to everyone on here at least once in their lives. I also hope Steve does do really well out of this not just the elderly lady. No sour grapes or anything and any of you reading that into any of my posts here just don’t know me very well. Both parties here can win, my only hope is that all lots are being seen by folks who can help make the winning situation better for both.

To quote Charlie Sheen…I want Steve to continue to be bi-winning a win here and win there.

Cheers,

John

P.S. Leon you need a pickup from the airport just let me know.

[mintacular]

Hard to know if the out of focus bird's eye pic of the cards has hurt or helped the sale $'s.. Some of the most successful "large vintage finds" on eBay seem to benefit from leaving out information or omitting good scans and it seems like there is always the buyer who wants "strike gold" and ends up overpaying...

At the same time, if you were to show a close-up of every card and disclose every crease, etc. than it is unlikely you would a "homerun" in terms of an offer as people could calculate to the "t" (pun intended) the value of each card...Plus the seller has admitted time is a factor here.

At the end of the day, the seller is reasonable to solicit offers on a huge lot like this and providing the story is an acceptable sales technique...Also, if the seller is reading this and has a single Hindu Brown to sell me plz send me a PM

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

I normally don’t brag or ever type this type of info on here...but this past month alone I dropped 20k or more on about 5-7 cards all T206s.

I can give you the number of a good exorcist if/when you decide you're tired of Bruce living inside your body.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by Rob D.

I can give you the number of a good exorcist if/when you decide you're tired of Bruce living inside your body.

We can and we will, perhaps I should have said we have spent...but if I use we then there are two of us and the total doubles right?

Rob are you saying... "Never go full Bruce...you never go full Bruce."

LMAO, America's New Toughest Wantlist.

It was a tough call, you have to leave your family behind to focus on the the Toughest Wantlist not easy. Also the intiation ceremony is rough I met the Bruces in the office but after hours of explination and learning the lost arts of the list I'm now almost ready to use "we"...almost.



Cheers,

John

[botn]

Originally Posted by Leon

Now that part I agree with. It would be nice if the better stuff was also posted, not just what has been picked through and sold before we see the lots. But that is just the collector in me and Steve can do what he wants. I think any collector would feel the same way. I doubt the brokered lots were steals but it would be nice to see the lots BEFORE someone else grabbed the best stuff. See John, we can agree on some things

I have no problem if Steve is only using the BST for the leftovers (leftovers were nice lots!). It is the way in which they had been offered which I suggested could have been done differently whereby assuring himself the most money for the consignor through the BST venue. That he may have sold the premium or better condition material privately is his prerogative. The material which was being made available to us red headed step-children was available for a very limited time and made unavailable in a very unconventional and unpredictable fashion.

The BST is a convenient, flexible and economical choice to move material but it is not as widely viewed as other venues are so it would reason that someone selling would want to leave up “open offer” type lots for as long as possible to ensure they have gotten the most from the limited collector base viewing the offering. Steve must have had minimum prices in mind he would take otherwise how would he know to sell the lots? As John pointed out, it is not like we all flock to the BST to move our goods or suggest it to others as a first choice in liquidating.

I would have liked a chance to make offers on some of the stuff he had up but I do not get bent out of shape over stuff like this. Just means I have that cash for other items being offered. Not like material is in short supply right now. But with that said, many of you have come here to defend Steve (totally unnecessary) and corroborate that lots were sold for top dollar. Why not share what you paid for your lots or what you know lots sold for? Steve obviously had prices in mind he would take for the lots, but chose not to post that and now lots have sold for good money but nobody will state what they paid.

[Leon]

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Originally Posted by botn

Why not share what you paid for your lots or what you know lots sold for? Steve obviously had prices in mind he would take for the lots, but chose not to post that and now lots have sold for good money but nobody will state what they paid.

I can't say what any other lot cost but the E90-1 lot of 32 was 2385 delivered..(still on it's way but I know it will be here soon)

[Jaybird]

I paid $4359 delivered for T206x135.

I consider that top dollar but condition is better than you would get in a lot of this size at an auction house. All would grade in the 3-4 range. Maybe a couple higher and a couple lower.

[t206hound]

Originally Posted by botn

But with that said, many of you have come here to defend Steve (totally unnecessary) and corroborate that lots were sold for top dollar. Why not share what you paid for your lots or what you know lots sold for? Steve obviously had prices in mind he would take for the lots, but chose not to post that and now lots have sold for good money but nobody will state what they paid.

Call me crazy, but I paid over $35/card for the lot of T206s I bought from Steve.

Amended - this lot was all Piedmont, crease-free, 89% commons, no variations

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by t206hound

Call me crazy, but I paid over $35/card for the lot of T206s I bought from Steve.

I don't think that's crazy- did you get the lot with the red Cobb and the Young? That's the one that had me drooling.......

[t206hound]

Originally Posted by teetwoohsix

I don't think that's crazy- did you get the lot with the red Cobb and the Young? That's the one that had me drooling.......

Mine had a Matty, but no cobb or young.

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by t206hound

Mine had a Matty, but no cobb or young.

Thanks-still a nice score......now that I see some of the prices, I'm glad I didn't come in with my $1,000.00 offer

Sincerely, Clayton