1911-16 T216 (Mino) - "thin stock" myth

[prewarsports]

I dont have anything to add on this subject, but I wanted to throw this out there. How in the hell is that Gibson a 3? Looks like a 5 on a bad day.

[fkw]

The Kottons with the larger scroll on back are thin and the VE backs are thin, but never seen a thin Mino either.

Lipsets books actually mentions that Minos havent been found in thin (yet), and that VE havent been found in anything but thin.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by fkw

The Kottons with the larger scroll on back are thin and the VE backs are thin, but never seen a thin Mino either.

Lipsets books actually mentions that Minos havent been found in thin (yet), and that VE havent been found in anything but thin.

Hopefully the SCD will change their description. My experience, and everyone else's I know of, is the same as yours Frank. Minos are on thicker stock....there might have been an anomaly where gloss wasn't put onto one or some but they should have gloss. The VE's are all on thin stock as well as the larger lettered Kotton's. I call those type 3's. All of the rest of the T216s are on thick stock as other series of cards are. It has been a bit of a a head shaker every time I see the descriptions stating otherwise. regards

[wonkaticket]

I've only handeld and seen a few in my collecting days, but I have never noticed a thin stock...

Leon where do you think this came from back in the day?

Cheers,

John

[Leon]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

I've only handeld and seen a few in my collecting days, but I have never noticed a thin stock...

Leon where do you think this came from back in the day?

Cheers,

John

Lipset delineates the sets correctly in his Encyclopedia. He says the larger captioned Kotton and the Virginia Extra are on thin stock. He does mention the glossy vs non-glossy issue also. I feel the "thin" paper stock error relating to Mino probably started with information given to the folks at Krause. I think as time has gone on, and the information age becomes even more mature, we will see certain hobby myths be corrected. I have a 1997 Standard Catalog Big Book in front of me (it was my first one) and it gives a blanket statement of all of the T216's coming in thin or thick stock and glossy or non glossy. That is the first instance of the information I can find though there could be (and probably are) earlier accounts of the misinformation. My hope is that the info in the Big Book will be changed until, at a minimum, we see at least 1 of the thin stock Minos. And not to go back to the T206 board debacle but it's the same thing here. It seems like these information errors should be corrected instead of perpetuated. regards

[wonkaticket]

Makes sense to me...

[nolemmings]

Leon, FWIW, the first edition of the Standard Catalog (in 1988) carries the same blanket description about t216s, so it goes back even further.