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			I thought I remembered reading that T227s were made with water soluable ink and that soaking them would be a no-no.  I have never tried it, but that is stuck in my head for some reason.
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			My recollection is different. I think they soak just fine. That card looks good to me. But I suspect the slabbers will reconsider those top corners, and their wrinkles; so that even if the dirt detaches after a soak, the grade might stay the same, or even go down. Possibly. | 
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			I've soaked TONS of cards.........but primarily to remove foreign objects.  I've never seen a noticeable change in the coloring or dirtiness (is that a word?) of the card.  I guess if you use something other than water or distilled water, you could see a difference and have some dirt removed buy my primary success has been in removing cards from albums.  If they're nice when they went in, they'll usually come out nice.  If they were crappy or dirty, they generally look like that after they come off the page.  I've heard of people soaking in the Bestine solution but I've never tried that.............
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			Thanks very much for the input fellas, I think I will leave the card as is.
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|  Soaking? 
			
			How about this card here?  Can I clean the dirt off if I crack and soak for a couple of days?
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|  Nice card 
			
			But dirt appears to be the least of the concern   In my opinion, I would leave it as is. r/ Frank 
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  I'd be afraid to soak that card for fear of doing more damage. | 
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|  soaking a Diamond Star 
			
			I decided to take a leap of faith with this soaking process.  I have owned this rather dirty/stained Diamond Star for a couple of decades.  I never had the courage to try this before yesterday.  I submerged the card in luke warm water for 30 minutes and pressed it for 24 hours as suggested.  The image on the left is the cleaned version and the one on the right is pre-drowning.  Although the cleaned version looks brighter I'n not sure it is necessarily an improvement.  There appears to be some color loss on the bottom left of the card.  I'n not sure if that is a result of the soaking or was revealed by the soaking.  Nonetheless, this is my last attempt at this.
		 Last edited by 71buc; 05-11-2011 at 01:45 PM. | 
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