Christopher Morales Forensic Investigator

[perezfan]

The Ruth/Gehrig personalized/signed Bat at the top of this thread is one of their better forgeries. This one could have fooled me, if I saw it in a reputable venue. Bet the "winning" bidder (and I put winning in quotes) holds on to it for a while and then flips it.

The rest are pretty obvious fakes, but someone really did their homework on the Bat.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Maybe Lee Trythall or Scott Malack of Coach's Corner can ask his consignor the provenance of the above Ruth/Gehrig signed bat and then pass it along to us.

I'd love to know the provenance of a bat signed by both Babe Ruth & Lou Gehrig.

But then again, Coach's Corner has auctioned off well over a dozen Ruth/Gehrig signed bats.

What's the provenance of all of those bats, Mr. Trythall?

[GrayGhost]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Maybe Lee Trythall or Scott Malack of Coach's Corner can ask his consignor the provenance of the above Ruth/Gehrig signed bat and then pass it along to us.

I'd love to know the provenance of a bat signed by both Babe Ruth & Lou Gehrig.

But then again, Coach's Corner has auctioned off well over a dozen Ruth/Gehrig signed bats.

What's the provenance of all of those bats, Mr. Trythall?

Well, it's not a generally known fact, but Babe and Lou were part of the first "Baseball's Heroes and Legends" public signing. This took place in October, and featured Babe and Lou, as well as Ty Cobb, Cy Young, Walter Johnson, and many other heroes. A "superticket" cost 5.00, which , tho expensive in those days of the late 20s era, entitled you to TWO autographs of each star appearing. Now, despite those limits, the Great Uncle of Mr Trythall was working as a ticket taker at this event, which I believe was held in Harrisburg PA (you could ask Lee, he may know the exact locale). Thusly, if there was "leftover" stock that the promoters had signed, Lee's great uncle Festus was alllowed to take the merchandise for a nominal fee. So, apparently, that is how these GREAT sigs got passed down, and today, are offered cheerfully by ROACHES CORNER. PURVEYORS OF MUSEUM QUALITY MEMORIES.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by GrayGhost

Well, it's not a generally known fact, but Babe and Lou were part of the first "Baseball's Heroes and Legends" public signing. This took place in October, and featured Babe and Lou, as well as Ty Cobb, Cy Young, Walter Johnson, and many other heroes. A "superticket" cost 5.00, which , tho expensive in those days of the late 20s era, entitled you to TWO autographs of each star appearing. Now, despite those limits, the Great Uncle of Mr Trythall was working as a ticket taker at this event, which I believe was held in Harrisburg PA (you could ask Lee, he may know the exact locale). Thusly, if there was "leftover" stock that the promoters had signed, Lee's great uncle Festus was alllowed to take the merchandise for a nominal fee. So, apparently, that is how these GREAT sigs got passed down, and today, are offered cheerfully by ROACHES CORNER. PURVEYORS OF MUSEUM QUALITY MEMORIES.

In all seriousness, that's funny, Scott.

[thetruthisoutthere]

What's really interesting about the below Lou Gehrig signed jersey authenticated by Chris Morales, Forensic Investigator, is the fact that it was signed over 70 years ago with a fountain pen and yet there is no sign of bleeding, etc. Amazing. I would think that a "Forensic Investigator" would ask that question immediately upon "forensic examination."

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=264094

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[GrayGhost]

Everything you say and many others on here Chris makes sense, of course, and we all know what blatant crooks and thieves these guys are. But, tho educating some people has prob hurt their business some, they just need to be stopped by the law. I hear class action suits, FBI, etc etc, but I just don't see anything done, unless someone was caught in the act or confessed something.

[Trl3789]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

What's really interesting about the below Lou Gehrig signed jersey authenticated by Chris Morales, Forensic Investigator, is the fact that it was signed over 70 years ago with a fountain pen and yet there is no sign of bleeding, etc. Amazing. I would think that a "Forensic Investigator" would ask that question immediately upon "forensic examination."

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=264094

Attachment 38358

Not that my opinion is worth much, but that was definitely the first thing i noticed. It struck me as wrong right off the bat. It almost looks stitched.

[thetruthisoutthere]

This isn't about "Morales bashing," it's about common sense and logic. Morales has certed well over a dozen Lou Gehrig signed jersey items and as a "Forensic Investigator" he never asked himself how a 70 year old uniform signed in fountain pen could look like it was penned just a few months ago?

I mean we're talking about fountain pen ink and old wool. And Morales claims on his website the following:

President. Morales Forensic Investigations, Falls Church, Virginia, Private forensic services and investigative company. Company provides services in all areas of questioned documents, including handwriting and hand printing examinations, typewriting, stamp impressions, photocopies, writing instruments, ink, paper, detection of erasures, alterations, erased and obliterated text and paper. Company also conducts firearms examination (ballistics), fingerprints, crime scene work, and other forensic science disciplines. Court qualified forensic science expert. October 1995 to Present.