Likelyhood of New Cards Being Discovered

[butcher354435]

I was able to pick this card up not to long ago and believe it may be a new discovery. It comes from a very obscure athletes issue probably from the period of 1913-1914. The issue focuses on the accomplishments from the 1912 Olympics for most of the subjects that are on the known checklist. It is also interesting to note that the Capitol Candy & Cracker Co also had direct ties with the Pacific Coast Biscuit Co. So yes, I believe unknown cards are still out there...

[Rich Klein]

always be additions and corrections to even static sets. IIRC, in 2007, a player in the T205 set who was originally ID'd as player x was actually player y but they had the same last name and it took almost a century to figure that out.

We'll always be adding to our knowledge, hopefully there will always be some central resevoir to keep everything together. If not, we may go back to the ways of the 70's --- in terms of checklisting and even with technological advantages, that is going to be even tougher 40 years later

Rich

[canjond]

Although uncommon, I believe new players can be discovered. I'd consider the Tango Cobb discovery earlier this year as a new find. Even though one was rumored to exist, noone had ever seen it before.

[egbeachley]

I predict the T231 Fan set will double in size in the next 20 years. If someone finds a collection from a smoker of that brand, it may increase 100-fold.

Wasn't the Pirates set a recent addition?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

I predict the T231 Fan set will double in size in the next 20 years. If someone finds a collection from a smoker of that brand, it may increase 100-fold.

Wasn't the Pirates set a recent addition?

Depending on how you count them this has already happened when John Rumirez showed his T231 specimen recently. Many of us knew about it for years as John had told us, but it had not been seen. I don't know about 100x more but I would expect more to be found...as well as most other very rare types. I have always said there is way more unknown to the hobby than most believe. There will be attic finds for the next 100+ yrs. AS far as new players added to well known and popular sets, I believe those will be very rare occurrences.

ps...the recent Pirates set is sort of in this realm too...

[barrysloate]

It will vary from set to set.

For example, you won't find a new player in E93, E94, E95, or E98. Ever.

It would be virtually impossible to find a new player in T205 or T206, although those eight T206 proofs were found with entirely unknown players. But if you're hoping to find a T205 Lajoie, forget it.

In a set like N172, maybe a new California League player could be found, and new poses are likely, but a new major leaguer would be nearly impossible.


But for some sets that we don't know a whole lot about, such a T231, as well as other somewhat obscure issues, new players would be expected.

[scmavl]

I, like Jon, was thinking of the Tango Eggs Cobb. I doubt a new T206 will be showing up, but on some of the more obscure sets? Sure.

[E93]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

Wasn't the Pirates set a recent addition?

If my memory serves me (which it often does not) the Pirate set that sold a few years ago was the basis on which the original checklist was made. It was not a set of new discoveries or completely new group to the hobby, though since the checklist was made (1970s?) a few new additions were made and included in that set including a Matty/dark cap.

JimB

[Bicem]

D380 Joss is relatively new to the hobby, and a great card.

[steve B]

In the more obscure/rare sets there are going to be new discoveries. And once outside of the sports field there are a great number of unknown cards. many t card sets haven't been checklisted well at all, And cards from outside the US aside from the UK and Germany often aren't checklisted. Possibly they aren't well cataloged either, but I don't have a world card index yet

Steve B

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by butcher354435

I was able to pick this card up not to long ago and believe it may be a new discovery. It comes from a very obscure athletes issue probably from the period of 1913-1914. The issue focuses on the accomplishments from the 1912 Olympics for most of the subjects that are on the known checklist. It is also interesting to note that the Capitol Candy & Cracker Co also had direct ties with the Pacific Coast Biscuit Co. So yes, I believe unknown cards are still out there...

Wow! That Thorpe card is very cool!

[fkw]

Hi Rhett, I had only seen a couple of those 1939 R-Unc. cards before you showed that group above. Very Cool!

One unusual thing I just noticed.... check out this Larry French card below that I had a scan of compared to the bright red one you have Looks like there are some nice variations in the printing/cutting on these...

[rhettyeakley]

Frank, that is interesting. I have 7 different of these and I have seen 1 or 2 randomly (inluding the French you posted), and the only other ones I have ever heard about are from this former Hunts lot (that went incredibly cheap, as nobody knew what they were looking at at the time.) Notice how my Stanley Hack and theirs share the same image but different cropping & coloring (just like the Larry French cards). These groupings are the only known "groups" that have been found to date. Also notice that all outside of my grouping have a pair of staple holes at top. We've discussed these before but they are very cool and apparently came from in-and-around the Chicago area.
-Rhett

http://www.huntauctions.com/online/i...items_list.cfm

[JLange]

Apologies to the rightful owner of these, as I do not own the cards, but I sure would like to get an example one day (preferably the Bruce Campbell in the center). I think this was maybe from the Hunt auction?

[ValKehl]

Don't forget the recently discovered D381 Ferguson Bakery Walter Johnson that was sold in Heritage's last major auction.
http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7032&lotNo=80075
Val

[ls7plus]

The more obscure sets have and will continue to see the most new players added, but where we might see some additions to more mainstream sets are in the area of proofs and/or salesman's samples, IMHO (although this might be outside the context of the original thread).

Very nice Mize, Rhett!

Regards,

Larry