What mgrs/exec's/umps would you consider future HOFers?

[carrigansghost]

how many managers have won two world series and are not in the HOF?

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by carrigansghost

how many managers have won two world series and are not in the HOF?

Well, the first one off the top of my head would be Carrigan.

Danny Murtaugh, Ralph Houk, Cito Gaston, Tom Kelly, Torre and Larussa. Although, I'm pretty sure a few of these guys will drop off of this list.

[novakjr]

Now that I think about it, Frank Chance wasn't elected as a manager...Any chance this could happen, or would they just not even bother because he's already in as a player?

The inverse of that goes for Torre. If he were to get in as a manager, would they still pursue getting him in as a player?

[mcadams]

Of current and recent managers, here are my thoughts:
Joe Torre and Bobby Cox should both get in on their 1st shot on the ballott. Both are legends of the modern era and are considered irreplaceble by their respective ballclubs. No brainers. After those two, I think LaRussa should get in as well and I'd even throw Lou Piniella in the mix. Lastly, I think Mike Scioscia will win at least more championship before he's done and will be in consideration one day.

[Fred]

To me Torre gets in based on the number of WS rings but come on now, you could have probably put just about any manager in that place and won those WS titles. Take away Torre's Yankee tenure and you have an average manager. Torre, without a doubt, will be remembered as an old school class act. I suppose you could put him in the HOF for making it through 12 years in the Yankee organization with George Steinbrenner. Torre certainly gets my vote into Cooperstown based on his lifetime acheivements in the game - lets not forget that as a player he was a 9x All Star with an MVP to his accomplishments.

[prewarsports]

I think Nicholas Young, John Brush and Frank Navin should be in from the earlier era of executives/owners. They will probably never make it and that is not a big deal. I HATE Steinbrenner and will shield my eyes when visiting Cooperstown so as not to look directly into the face of evil when he makes it in eventually!

I think Cy Rigler should absolutely be in as an umpire

Managers, I am ok with Torre and LaRussa and Bobby Cox. I always liked Lou Pinella but he is probably a longshot.

Rhys

[Brian Van Horn]

Danny Murtaugh stacks up favorably with a number of Hall of Fame managers:

[aljurgela]

Buck O'neil should get in as "overall contribution to the game" as he was a good (not great) player and a coach and then worked for years on behalf of the NL HOF and HOF... a real class act that everybody loved and that baseball is "better for" having had in the game...

[A2000]

Marvin Miller should be in the Hall of Fame.

Larussa, Cox and Torre (3rd, 4th and 5th all time in wins respectively) will all get into the Hall because every manager in the top 11 are already enshrined.

I don't see Terry Francona getting serious consideration for the Hall of Fame in the near future as he's ranked 60th right now.

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by A2000

Marvin Miller should be in the Hall of Fame.

Larussa, Cox and Torre (3rd, 4th and 5th all time in wins respectively) will all get into the Hall because every manager in the top 11 are already enshrined.

I don't see Terry Francona getting serious consideration for the Hall of Fame in the near future as he's ranked 60th right now.

I mentioned Francona more on potential...He's already got a great foundation with five 95+ win seasons and the two World Series wins. I think the fact that they were for the Red Sox, kinda makes the first one a little more than just a championship... He'll be legendary in Boston forever for being the manager of the '04 team that reversed the curse.. And a bit of that legendary status should bleed out a little into the rest of the baseball loving population due to the historic nature of the supposed curse...***Keep in mind, I'm NOT a Sox fan at all just giving an honest observation***The first manager to break the Cubs curse, or any manager/coach who wins in any major sport for Cleveland will also get this somewhat legendary treatment in my mind...

5-7 more solid years, and I say he's in.. Another pennant or two wouldn't hurt either. BUT 1 more WS win would almost guarantee him enshrinement...If he were to stop managing today, I'd say no though. He just needs to compile at this point.