Simple Poll: PSA 5 w/ Crease -- Disclose?

[bobbyw8469]

This is one that I recently won from Heritage auctions. I can't believe I missed it. If you were me, would you be happy with this card????

[barrysloate]

Looks like they took a little too much off the top. Also looks like the Duke is sporting a little facial hair. What's the deal with that one?

[bobbyw8469]

LOL...It's not trimmed, and there is no facial hair. I am talking about the Lake Michigan type stain/discoloring that is taking up the left half of the card!!!!! Look at the top border and notice where the stain starts and then follow it all the way down to the bottom border.

[barrysloate]

The top border doesn't look good at all to me, and I see a shadow of facial hair on my scan. I didn't even see what you cited.

Now I see the stain. I don't like that card.

[teetwoohsix]

Great post Johnny !!

I agree with everyone who agrees with disclosing, it's simply just the right thing to do. I always feel comfortable buying from someone who I know will let me know if there's something you can't really see on a scan.

Mike's Meyers portrait is a perfect example of why a seller should disclose regardless of the grade issued.

Clayton

[mrvster]

Clayton,

Thanks bro....your one of the collectors who make this hobby enjoyable for me......

Robert-

OMG!!!....no offense, that is a return and one UGLY 7!!, i was very happy with my last heritage purchase, but someone needs a set of bi-focals at both fine establishments...maybe they spilled some beer on that one when grading

Good luck!

Peace

Johnny

[T206Collector]

The number of f*ckups I see in PSA holders really makes me sick.

I have a pet theory that people often sell the PSA cards because they're way overgraded, and they don't cross over into SGC holders. So the market for PSA cards ends up being greater ironically.

[Gradedcardman]

Bobby the stained cards are also overlooked by PSA. I had a PSA 5 t206 with a ugly stain as well. Sold it with the stain disclosed by the way !

[asoriano]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

The number of f*ckups I see in PSA holders really makes me sick.

I couldn't agree more.

After purchasing a PSA graded T205 Drum that SGC deemed re-colored (on all four of the corners), I've given up on their grading standards.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

This is one that I recently won from Heritage auctions. I can't believe I missed it. If you were me, would you be happy with this card????

That is a classic! Wouldn't be happy at all with the grading company or a seller/auction house that did not disclose the obvious stain. Maybe you should have caught it but that does not relieve either of the other parties of their obligation to catch it or to point it out IMO. I can see how it would be easier for the seller to have missed it than the grading company.

[Jcfowler6]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

That is a classic! Wouldn't be happy at all with the grading company or a seller/auction house that did not disclose the obvious stain. Maybe you should have caught it but that does not relieve either of the other parties of their obligation to catch it or to point it out IMO. I can see how it would be easier for the seller to have missed it than the grading company.

Wow! Sorry for the raw deal on that card. Are the cases water proof? I was wondering if that stain happened after grading.

[HRBAKER]

Bobby,
Your example brings up another interesting question. If you are the consignor of that card which has been significantly overgraded assuming that is a stain, do you disclose it to the the house just in case they might miss it?

[bobbyw8469]

It is an odd stain that I am going to send it to PSA under their "Grade Guarantee". The back is flawless, so I find it odd that the stain is only on the front?? Not sure what PSA is going to say under the review. If they deem a '7' to be the correct grade, I am gonna flip out, and I will be talking to them in person at the National in Baltimore in 2012!

[iggyman]

One of my pet peeves is with auction houses and graded card lots. Purchasing a single lot of graded cards from major/minor auctions is always a crap shoot. They usually don't show you all the cards, the pictures are sometimes tiny, and nothing about an over graded card in the lot is ever glowingly disclosed. Consequently, you occasionally end-up with some graded cards that were obviously way over graded and included in the lot because they wouldn't have brought much $$$ (for the grade) as a single card lot. You really don't have much recourse with the auction house, so you end-up being somewhat screwed. One day, when I become mayor (or become a major) I will outlaw this practice.

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