need cash for The National

[jg8422]

While collecting cards is an awesome hobby, it appears that for some members it is a weak attempt at filling a huge void in their lives. The things that are truly important in ones life should be deeper than a grade on a piece of cardboard. It is actually sad to think that some people are missing out on life's greatest gifts.....btw, these great "gifts" are not material items.

I friend of mine is a paramedic who has spent the final dying moments with hundreds of people. He told me not once has anyone ever said anything about their wealth or material things during their final moments. He said they always speak about their loved ones and things that are truly important in life.



Thoughts?

[Bicem]

Probably belongs in a different thread and on the main board but I say to each his own. If someone enjoys cards more than people that's their right. What each person values in life is different.

We agree that everyone finds pleasure in different ways.

However, to assume that everyone's greatest gift is a spouse, partner and children is not true.

There are millions of Americans, some very successful ones, who never marry, never live with another person, and never have children. This group is financially independent, has no personal responsibility for anyone but themselves, controls their own space and does what they want to when they
want to.

Collecting ultra rare baseball memorabilia, especially those items for which there is a great deal of competition, is our single greatest source of joy.

Having faced death several times, we know you can't take with you, but the first thing we did when left the hospital was to spend hours working on our collection.

No nagging wife, no screaming kids, no alimony, no one in our space (except those we want there when we want them).

A home in perfect order with a small personal staff - good friends who respect our privacy, incredible Yankee tickets.

Can't think of anything (or anyone) that could bring us more happiness.

Enjoy the 4th and God Bless America!

[Big Six]

I really have to wonder what kind of benefit Yankeefan51 receives from participating in this forum. My initial thought is that, despite his incredibly high-grade collection and strident belief in his own self-sufficiency, "they" are incredibly lonely. In many respects, the negative attention he consistently receives in response to his elitist and condescending posts is, well, still attention. That has to count for something, right?

In fact, based upon the statements above about nagging wives, screaming kids, alimony and not needing to share his space, a clear picture arises of someone who has only experienced bad relationships throughout his life. Sequestering himself surrounded only by inanimate objects, paid staff and a few folks who probably blow smoke up his arse sounds like the perfect remedy to forgetting those bad relationships.

As a Yankee fan, I am further disheartened as seats I used to enjoy as a child have become increasingly inaccessable as self-important, corporate tax-write-off types now occupy them, fantasizing that the game being played out is for their pleasure alone. I do however take some comfort in knowing "they" only have a single-ticket plan...

Lastly, his tired use of the third person further confirms my belief that he has no desire to make a connection with anyone on this forum and that is truly a sad state of affairs. Generally speaking, we all take great pride in our passion for collecting cards, autographes, etc. and to demean any of us for collecting "beaters" demeans all of us.

My personal collection runs the gamut of grades, quality and subject matter and I could care less if you do or don't like what I collect. Some folks on here have limited resources or, more importantly, other responsibliities greater than themselves to take in to consideration. Yet, regardless of those limitations, their passion comes screaming through.

I don't envy this type of person but rather feel sorry for them. It is too bad that someone who obviously has the resources and, dare I say, appreciation for the hobby is so unwilling to communicate that passion with the rest of us. I am sure there would be something valuable for us to learn from him and he'd likely be surprised how good it would feel to share his efforts and insights with others.

[IronHorse2130]

Originally Posted by Big Six

I really have to wonder what kind of benefit Yankeefan51 receives from participating in this forum. My initial thought is that, despite his incredibly high-grade collection and strident belief in his own self-sufficiency, "they" are incredibly lonely. In many respects, the negative attention he consistently receives in response to his elitist and condescending posts is, well, still attention. That has to count for something, right?

In fact, based upon the statements above about nagging wives, screaming kids, alimony and not needing to share his space, a clear picture arises of someone who has only experienced bad relationships throughout his life. Sequestering himself surrounded only by inanimate objects, paid staff and a few folks who probably blow smoke up his arse sounds like the perfect remedy to forgetting those bad relationships.

As a Yankee fan, I am further disheartened as seats I used to enjoy as a child have become increasingly inaccessable as self-important, corporate tax-write-off types now occupy them, fantasizing that the game being played out is for their pleasure alone. I do however take some comfort in knowing "they" only have a single-ticket plan...

Lastly, his tired use of the third person further confirms my belief that he has no desire to make a connection with anyone on this forum and that is truly a sad state of affairs. Generally speaking, we all take great pride in our passion for collecting cards, autographes, etc. and to demean any of us for collecting "beaters" demeans all of us.

My personal collection runs the gamut of grades, quality and subject matter and I could care less if you do or don't like what I collect. Some folks on here have limited resources or, more importantly, other responsibliities greater than themselves to take in to consideration. Yet, regardless of those limitations, their passion comes screaming through.

I don't envy this type of person but rather feel sorry for them. It is too bad that someone who obviously has the resources and, dare I say, appreciation for the hobby is so unwilling to communicate that passion with the rest of us. I am sure there would be something valuable for us to learn from him and he'd likely be surprised how good it would feel to share his efforts and insights with others.

Extremely well said. I'm sure the vast majority of us are thinking exactly what you have said.

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by Big Six

I really have to wonder what kind of benefit Yankeefan51 receives from participating in this forum. My initial thought is that, despite his incredibly high-grade collection and strident belief in his own self-sufficiency, "they" are incredibly lonely. In many respects, the negative attention he consistently receives in response to his elitist and condescending posts is, well, still attention. That has to count for something, right?

In fact, based upon the statements above about nagging wives, screaming kids, alimony and not needing to share his space, a clear picture arises of someone who has only experienced bad relationships throughout his life. Sequestering himself surrounded only by inanimate objects, paid staff and a few folks who probably blow smoke up his arse sounds like the perfect remedy to forgetting those bad relationships.

As a Yankee fan, I am further disheartened as seats I used to enjoy as a child have become increasingly inaccessable as self-important, corporate tax-write-off types now occupy them, fantasizing that the game being played out is for their pleasure alone. I do however take some comfort in knowing "they" only have a single-ticket plan...

Lastly, his tired use of the third person further confirms my belief that he has no desire to make a connection with anyone on this forum and that is truly a sad state of affairs. Generally speaking, we all take great pride in our passion for collecting cards, autographes, etc. and to demean any of us for collecting "beaters" demeans all of us.

My personal collection runs the gamut of grades, quality and subject matter and I could care less if you do or don't like what I collect. Some folks on here have limited resources or, more importantly, other responsibliities greater than themselves to take in to consideration. Yet, regardless of those limitations, their passion comes screaming through.

I don't envy this type of person but rather feel sorry for them. It is too bad that someone who obviously has the resources and, dare I say, appreciation for the hobby is so unwilling to communicate that passion with the rest of us. I am sure there would be something valuable for us to learn from him and he'd likely be surprised how good it would feel to share his efforts and insights with others.

First things first! To Bruce, it is not a hobby, but a business

In response to two recent posts

1) We have 4 seats(Yankee) on the luxury field box section- first row-priceless in terms of value- perfect to entertain clients and friends. We earnedthe money, and we pay for our tickets- no corporate tax deduction

2) For us this is a hobby, but it is highly competitive and we win someone else loses, and when we lose someone else wins. We share only what we want to share with whom we want to share it

3) As far as we can recall, the first amendment enables us to express our point of view. We are very happy, never lonely, attend the best shows and concertsthe best seats, eat in five star restaurants and travel first class. So you can enjoy the screaming kids and nagging wife and McDonalds. We prefer acquiring Four Base its and dinning with the ruling class.

In other words, don't apply your values to ours. As a final note, we have 14 20+ year friendships and our private staff has been with us for more than 20 years- we get along fine. No dirt on the floor, no crying and no one to answer to, ever.

Ask anyone who knows us, and they will tell you we are extremely happy. We have no interest in sharing our space, resources or anything else with anyone else who is not a life-long friend or a paying client.

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by Yankeefan51

In response to two recent posts

1) We have 4 seats(Yankee) on the luxury field box section- first row-priceless in terms of value- perfect to entertain clients and friends. We earnedthe money, and we pay for our tickets- no corporate tax deduction

2) For us this is a hobby, but it is highly competitive and we win someone else loses, and when we lose someone else wins. We share only what we want to share with whom we want to share it

3) As far as we can recall, the first amendment enables us to express our point of view. We are very happy, never lonely, attend the best shows and concertsthe best seats, eat in five star restaurants and travel first class. So you can enjoy the screaming kids and nagging wife and McDonalds. We prefer acquiring Four Base its and dinning with the ruling class.

In other words, don't apply your values to ours. As a final note, we have 14 20+ year friendships and our private staff has been with us for more than 20 years- we get along fine. No dirt on the floor, no crying and no one to answer to, ever.

Ask anyone who knows us, and they will tell you we are extremely happy. We have no interest in sharing our space, resources or anything else with anyone else who is not a life-long friend or a paying client.

Sorry Bruce, I HAVE to respond: First of all, what are Four Base "its"? Also, what does it mean by "dinning" with the ruling class? Just figured a Harvard Business School graduate might spell check or proofread (I, too, went to an Ivy League Business School) and as a 1st amendment believer myself, I agree with you: anyone who knows you WILL tell us that you are extremely happy (what they don't know is that's on the outside), inside, I am happy to surmise you are "festering"

For me, I am happy with my family and McDonalds, albeit I can afford the 5 star restaurants as well, just choose not to do so and spend my money on my family and cardboard

[Big Six]

Originally Posted by Yankeefan51

In response to two recent posts

1) We have 4 seats(Yankee) on the luxury field box section- first row-priceless in terms of value- perfect to entertain clients and friends. We earnedthe money, and we pay for our tickets- no corporate tax deduction

2) For us this is a hobby, but it is highly competitive and we win someone else loses, and when we lose someone else wins. We share only what we want to share with whom we want to share it

3) As far as we can recall, the first amendment enables us to express our point of view. We are very happy, never lonely, attend the best shows and concertsthe best seats, eat in five star restaurants and travel first class. So you can enjoy the screaming kids and nagging wife and McDonalds. We prefer acquiring Four Base its and dinning with the ruling class.

In other words, don't apply your values to ours. As a final note, we have 14 20+ year friendships and our private staff has been with us for more than 20 years- we get along fine. No dirt on the floor, no crying and no one to answer to, ever.

Ask anyone who knows us, and they will tell you we are extremely happy. We have no interest in sharing our space, resources or anything else with anyone else who is not a life-long friend or a paying client.

Then what, exactly, is your purpose on this board? You seem disinclined to share your knowledge or collection and seem more focused on belittling virtually everyone else who can't "compete" in the space you do...

You have every right to say and write and think whatever you like, but that goes both ways my friend. You can keep your front row seats and dinner with the ruling class...I couldn't think of anyone who's company I would enjoy less.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Yankeefan51

We have 4 seats(Yankee) on the luxury field box section- first row-priceless in terms of value- perfect to entertain clients and friends.

I assume you would have said "Legends Seats" if you had those, am I right? Otherwise you're either talking "first row" of a field level section behind the Legends Seats, or first row off the field, but well into the outfield, correct?

Just curious as to how priceless these tickets really are.

[scmavl]

The only thing I took offense to is the slam against "beater collectors". I'm well aware I cannot afford high grade, rare cards but I certainly enjoy the hobby and not being afraid to handle most of my cards.

In other words: IT'S STILL FUN TO ME.