R315's factory cut?

[leftygrove10]

There have been several posts on this forum recently regarding these cards. I have seen lots of singles from the set. Some people (like Leon) have 3 card and 5 card panels that I'm sure he'll show.

I have seen SGC give numeric grades to these cards. I have a Grove that was graded SGC 84 (see scan at bottom). From what I'm told, there is a fine size tolerance that SGC uses when deciding how to grade the particular card.

Here is a link to my website which shows all of the cards from the set:
http://www.bandkgreen.net/R315

More information is available at the Old Cardboard link below:
http://www.oldcardboard.com/r/r315/r...?cardsetID=873

[Leon]

Yeap, we just had a recent thread about these....as far as hand cut vs factory cut...I am not sure. I think many were issued as vertical strips and that's why we see them fairly often in uncut form. On the other hand I have only seen this one horizontal type strip. As with any strip card I am sure it's how they are cut, and more importantly how close they are cut, which determines a numerical or AUT grade.....regards

[leftygrove10]

Leon.... I had not noticed this before, but your horizontal strip has four Type B cards and one Type D card (the Reynolds). I wonder why they made the Reynolds card differently? I would have thought that all of the cards on a given strip would be the same Type. For example, your vertical strip are all Type A's.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by leftygrove10

Leon.... I had not noticed this before, but your horizontal strip has four Type B cards and one Type D card (the Reynolds). I wonder why they made the Reynolds card differently? I would have thought that all of the cards on a given strip would be the same Type. For example, your vertical strip are all Type A's.

Hi Brad
I have noticed that too. I really don't have a theory why they did 2 different types of printing on one strip..and I am not sure the horizontal strip was even a normal production run either, given it's scarcity.

[brob28]

Thanks Gents, I'll definately call SCG about any specfic card measurements in order to get a numerical grade, they were adamant that these came factory cut.

Neat story (at least I think so) as to how I got this. In the 80's I was 12 and my neighbors Grandfather called him to say he found 2 boxes of cards in his attic and would bring them by for him when he visited. Can imagine how crazy our 12 year old minds were going! He brought two boxes of 315 panels, probably had 30 in each box. We were disapointed that they were not "real" cards at the time! The Ruth was the only one that had been cut and I convinved my neighbor to give it to me. I often wonder where those boxes are now!

[leftygrove10]

Originally Posted by brob28

Neat story (at least I think so) as to how I got this. In the 80's I was 12 and my neighbors Grandfather called him to say he found 2 boxes of cards in his attic and would bring them by for him when he visited. Can imagine how crazy our 12 year old minds were going! He brought two boxes of 315 panels, probably had 30 in each box. We were disapointed that they were not "real" cards at the time! The Ruth was the only one that had been cut and I convinved my neighbor to give it to me. I often wonder where those boxes are now!

That is a neat story. I have seen a few panels over the years, but not that many. I have seen FAR MORE single cards than panels. I had the opportunity to buy a panel with Grove on it several years ago. I think it was a reasonable price, but I passed on it at the time. If given another opportunity to purchase a panel with Grove on it, I would probably take it.

Could you please post a scan of your Ruth? If you don't know how, send it to me and I'll post a scan. My email address is brad_green@cox.net

[fkw]

About the Reynolds on Leons horizontal strip...

The "type C" and "type D" shouldnt really be a type, those 6 players are ONLY found that way and not any other way. Its just a card design difference (script name within the image) for those players and not a variation.

The six players that come as ONLY type C or type D are Cissell, Clancy, Hendricks, Jolley, Reynolds, and Shires.

[brob28]

Brad,

I wish I knew what I was looking at back then, I should have offerred my neighbor anything he wanted for them! They were all the the vertical stacks and still in the boxes!

SCG sent the card on the 6th so I should have it any day. When it's in hand I'll post the scan. I'm curious what 54 members think of the cut. I assumed all of the singles were hand cut and it would not present a grading issue, unless it was a terrible cut.

[nolemmings]

The same can be said for type "A" and type "B"--they are only found in that format.

Five of the 6 C/D are White Sox, only the Hendricks (sic) is not, and I believe him to be the scarcest in the set.

It is unclear to me whether the C/Ds were included in the strips to replace others from the set or as additions. I believe Koenig is slightly more difficult than most--maybe he was replaced-- and personally I see fewer Lazzeri, Waner and Wilsons than the other HOFers, but I really haven't really noted any other scarcities.

I believe the cards were factory cut as singles, but don't know if panels were intended to make it to the public or it just ended up that way. Some of the cards are so horribly off center, yet with straight cuts, that I find it hard to believe a human would have done that on purpose.