This sums it up about Jeter and 3000

[T206Collector]

This thread really surprises me.

First of all, doesn't anyone see this as the social phenomenon that it is? The people are starved for an athlete that they can support who has not and is unlikely to let them down because of off-field behavior.

Second, this is a memorabilia board. To see people on a memorabilia board -- including someone who actually charges money to authenticate autographs (http://richardsimonsports.com/authentication.htm) -- chiding the collecting public and those who rise to the excessive demand in the market, is ironic to say the least.

Since when has monetizing baseball memorabilia been equated with the Devil, or being un-American?

Pathetic.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

This thread really surprises me.

First of all, doesn't anyone see this as the social phenomenon that it is? The people are starved for an athlete that they can support who has not and is unlikely to let them down because of off-field behavior.

Second, this is a memorabilia board. To see people on a memorabilia board -- including someone who actually charges money to authenticate autographs (http://richardsimonsports.com/authentication.htm) -- chiding the collecting public and those who rise to the excessive demand in the market, is ironic to say the least.

Since when has monetizing baseball memorabilia been equated with the Devil, or being un-American?

Pathetic.

Not to pick a fight with anybody else, but thank you.

Seems Jeter's only crimes in all of this was getting his 3000th hit out of the field of play, making more money then most of us (as if that's relevant), and not studying the auction memorabilia market before having the nuts to hit a ball to a guy with a big heart and a student loan.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Seems Jeter's only crimes in all of this was getting his 3000th hit out of the field of play, making more money then most of us (as if that's relevant), and not studying the auction memorabilia market before having the nuts to hit a ball to a guy with a big heart and a student loan.

That's right. If poor, ignorant Derek had only known the ball was valuable he'd a done right by the fan.
After making numerous multimillion dollar deals with Steiner, selling crap memorabilia, how was he to know that the actual artifact of his 3k hit was worth a few bucks.

Gimme a break.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

That's right. If poor, ignorant Derek had only known the ball was valuable he'd a done right by the fan.
After making numerous multimillion dollar deals with Steiner, selling crap memorabilia, how was he to know that the actual artifact of his 3k hit was worth a few bucks.

Gimme a break.

Why do you call it crap memorabilia?

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

This thread really surprises me.

First of all, doesn't anyone see this as the social phenomenon that it is? The people are starved for an athlete that they can support who has not and is unlikely to let them down because of off-field behavior.

Second, this is a memorabilia board. To see people on a memorabilia board -- including someone who actually charges money to authenticate autographs (http://richardsimonsports.com/authentication.htm) -- chiding the collecting public and those who rise to the excessive demand in the market, is ironic to say the least.

Since when has monetizing baseball memorabilia been equated with the Devil, or being un-American?

Pathetic.

I am not going to jump into this argument, I just want to thank T206 for posting a link to my website.

[T206Collector]

You're quite welcome. Be careful not to get too successful in your authentication business, lest you succumb to the foibles of greed and soullessness.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

You're quite welcome. Be careful not to get too successful in your authentication business, lest you succumb to the foibles of greed and soullessness.

As most everyone here knows I buy and sell autographs and authentication is not my main business,,,but again, thanks for the plug.
And fyi, my rates are MUCH lower than the big 2.
I don't think I have succumbed to greed and I think the people that know me, know that very well.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

As most everyone here knows I buy and sell autographs and authentication is not my main business,,,but again, thanks for the plug.
And fyi, my rates are MUCH lower than the big 2.
I don't think I have succumbed to greed and I think the people that know me, know that very well.

If you think I was suggesting that, you miss my point. Steiner's main business is selling autographs, too. You may disagree with his business model, but it is hard to gripe with his success.

[RichardSimon]

That is true.
Millions of dollars for selling dirt,,, how can you argue with that?
(I am referring to Yankee Stadium dirt, not calling his merchandise dirt).

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

That is true.
Millions of dollars for selling dirt,,, how can you argue with that?
(I am referring to Yankee Stadium dirt, not calling his merchandise dirt).

Like that idiot Poland Springs guy who sells water. Who would buy water if they can get it for free?

[ChiefBenderForever]

Wow this was quite the read. I understand both sides and think it all has become bordering on insanity. Our cultures appetite to be close to those bigger than life figures has always been around but with todays technology the superstars get no relief. I watched the documentary 'Teenage Paparazzo' and was kind of surprised to see how every moment of many peoples lives is constantly documented with video and photo, they literally have no private life. An interesting twist was when director Adrian Grenier decided to flip the switch and turned the cameras on the Paparazzo to understand where they are coming from and they got very upset, covered their faces, yelled, ran away, didn't want to talk, threatened harm, ect ect. They wanted privacy and to be left alone but yet make their living off of the exact same thing.
It's easy to say that because someone is making all this money they should stop and sign or talk to everyone that approaches them but what if it was you ? What if you were in a hurry, or had a headache, or bad mood, or were just so sick of everyone who saw you running up to you asking for something ? Then you know half the people just want to sell what you gave them anyways so what is the point, how do you tell who is a fan and who isn't, and if you sign for everyone will you ever get anything done ? But if you sit down and sign for a few hours in a controlled environment and get X amount of dollars so be it.
Society created the monster that feeds the greed, but the ones we worship have to live in it and deal with it, no matter how much money they make not sure what price some peace and privacy is worth.