barry halper forgeries

murphusa · #1 07-26-2011, 04:29 PM

Does anyone know that coaches corner also has a wholesale operation. They sell to smaller mall type stores, antique shop and the sort.

tinkereversandme · #2 07-26-2011, 04:51 PM

With all due respect, I wasn't comparing Coach's to Halper. If you read Nash's site, he has done other stories that don't involve the Hall Of Fame or Halper, like the one on James Spence, and his stuff doesn't show up in the Hall, does it? If Nash adores turn of the century baseball as he does, why not look into an outfit who seems to have it all is all I am saying.

Halper gets what he deserved I suppose, but a lot of the stuff he sold was in fact good and now since high dollar items are bad, everything is bad?

And those who authenticated originally should have some blame as well at the very end as well, Mike and Flannel.

Larry

David Atkatz · #3 07-26-2011, 05:02 PM

It's not so much some stuff was bad, Larry. It's the bullshit stories Halper invented to go with the crap. He knew that stuff was bad.

And one thing (Halper) has nothing to do with the other (Coach's). You might as well complain that AIDS researchers are doing nothing about curing cancer. Nash isn't responsible for outing every bit of fraud in the baseball memorabilia world.

slidekellyslide · #4 07-26-2011, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by David Atkatz

And one thing (Halper) has nothing to do with the other (Coach's). You might as well complain that AIDS researchers are doing nothing about curing cancer. Nash isn't responsible for outing every bit of fraud in the baseball memorabilia world.

Yeah, but he's out crusading while hiding the fact that "The Nash Collection" may be one of the biggest frauds in the history of our hobby.

Leon · #5 07-27-2011, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Yeah, but he's out crusading while hiding the fact that "The Nash Collection" may be one of the biggest frauds in the history of our hobby.

I don't know the whole story, that's for sure....but every time I see something about Nash I can't help but thinking about this.

ptr002 · #6 07-29-2011, 04:42 PM

Another point of view and a reply from Jason Halper to some of the allegations from Nash.

Paul Rozga

http://www.baseballdigest.com/2011/0...-halper-smear/

David Atkatz · #7 07-29-2011, 05:27 PM

Peter Nash has a conflict of interest which makes him unqualified to report on Halper's scams (according to Healey.)

Healey's article (which consists of little other than naysaying) then presents a long defensive quote from Halper's son Jason. No conflict of interest there!

Can you say "hypocrite"?

slidekellyslide · #8 07-29-2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Peter Nash has a conflict of interest which makes him unqualified to report on Halper's scams (according to Healey.)

Healey's article (which consists of little other than naysaying) then presents a long defensive quote from Halper's son Jason. No conflict of interest there!

Can you say "hypocrite"?

There are degrees of hypocrisy...Personally I see Peter Nash leading the crusade against Barry Halper to be much higher on the scale than some writer I've never heard of enlisting Barry Halper's son to give his dad's side of the story.

What would you say if Coaches Corner set up a blog going after fraud in the Autograph industry without discussing their own part in it?

SmokeyJoe1912 · #9 08-02-2011, 07:47 PM

This is all so confusing. Shouldn't it be easy for Halper's family to verify his claims? For example, did he play for Miami or not? How could autographs Halper got personally be deemed forgeries? (Can someone forge his own name?)

Mark · #10 08-02-2011, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe1912

This is all so confusing. Shouldn't it be easy for Halper's family to verify his claims? For example, did he play for Miami or not? How could autographs Halper got personally be deemed forgeries? (Can someone forge his own name?)

If I recall, he was at Miami, but only after Foxx left. Thus, his story about getting the autograph cannot be true.

tinkereversandme · #11 08-03-2011, 10:19 AM

Aids, David? Your counter arguments are always amusing. Sports Illustrated doesn't just deal with one sport and I'm not asking Nash to report about faberge egg reproductions. It's all related. After all, he did post an anti-JSA piece, didn't he? Nash is agenda driven, as is most sites who want to point out the errors of those they dislike as they attempt to make a difference with their agenda. Nobody does any good for the hobby when they do this.

And this is 2011, it's essential with this technology to trust someone when buying autographs. As much as we want to go back to the old days, it isn't going to happen. We buy through scans and catalogs now since shows are dead and there has to be someone to trust and it's just too bad there are so many scam artists out there posing as authenticators.

Larry

SmokeyJoe1912 · #12 08-03-2011, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark

If I recall, he was at Miami, but only after Foxx left. Thus, his story about getting the autograph cannot be true.

Ok, thanks. So he did pitch at Miami after Foxx was there?

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