National prices?

[calvindog]

Leon, you're a cock-eyed optimist, much like Billy Mumphrey. As you noted, the BIN ebay prices are still insane; there's no reason to believe that the dealers at the National -- most if not all sell on ebay -- will suddenly be hit with a dose of reality and adjust their prices. I was pretty stunned by how crazy the prices were last year and I expect more of the same. Some dealers are realistic during a negotiation and some just are not.

[bbcard1]

There are a lot of dealers who don't realize they are collectors but their pricing makes them that way. I hate not making the national this year, and I certainly always spend all my money, but I have not found the national to be a very good buying experience.

I would expect realized prices on mid grade stuff to be down a bit.

[Big Ben]

Hey Leon, what is your table number at the National? If you are there on Sunday I'll be certain to stop by.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Big Ben

Hey Leon, what is your table number at the National? If you are there on Sunday I'll be certain to stop by.

We will be at table 538 but not positive about setting up on Sunday.....

[slidekellyslide]

FWIW a friend of mine just got back from setting up at the Cooperstown show and said he had his best sales in years.

[bobbyw8469]

I have never been to a "National", but at the local card show in Raleigh, some of the dealers have high enough prices, they make Ebay look like Big Lots.......When I see some of the prices, I just can't even dicker, they are so absurdly high.....

[ullmandds]

I'm expecting the majority of dealers to have their cards ridiculously overpriced...with a small % of sellers within reason...or just slightly overpriced!

[HOF Yankees]

before anything i'll look at every table, decide later what to get and see how much i want to spend, hopefully i can find some steals but there might not be much

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Leon, you're a cock-eyed optimist, much like Billy Mumphrey.

Leon, just don't get mixed up in world diplomacy or international intrigue. The stakes are just too high.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Leon, you're a cock-eyed optimist, much like Billy Mumphrey. As you noted, the BIN ebay prices are still insane; there's no reason to believe that the dealers at the National -- most if not all sell on ebay -- will suddenly be hit with a dose of reality and adjust their prices. I was pretty stunned by how crazy the prices were last year and I expect more of the same. Some dealers are realistic during a negotiation and some just are not.

I would be surprised if there are more than a handful of folks with realistic/reasonable prices.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I would be surprised if there are more than a handful of folks with realistic/reasonable prices.

Agreed. I think that the great majority overprice by far; some come down to market prices if begged considerably.

[camlov2]

Originally Posted by calvindog

As you noted, the BIN ebay prices are still insane; there's no reason to believe that the dealers at the National -- most if not all sell on ebay -- will suddenly be hit with a dose of reality and adjust their prices.

However... seeing someone holding dollar bills might make a reduced sale more tempting to someone who hasn't sold items in a while.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by camlov2

However... seeing someone holding dollar bills might make a reduced sale more tempting to someone who hasn't sold items in a while.

The psychology works both ways. Sellers know buyers don't want to come home with nothing but a Net 54 pin, so they are banking on people being willing to overpay for that card they really want.

[4815162342]

I would agree. The captive audience of buyers with cash burning holes in their pockets trumps the casual eBay window shopper.

[FUBAR]

My Motto

If you don't like my prices, send over your wife and we can dicker!

[esd10]

i wish i could go to the national show but i'm poor and they never come to ohio but with prices on ebay are not realistic they are way over priced in most cases and the economy has really taken a hit and you can see it in every facit of every market except precious metals.

[HOF Yankees]

esd- i hear ya, with myself getting married in a year, my vintage baseball has been downgraded but still love my vintage and yet i still have fun with them, as far as prices i just buy what i can afford. Nationals I hope is good to me

[Jewish-collector]

Originally Posted by esd10

i wish i could go to the national show but i'm poor and they never come to ohio but with prices on ebay are not realistic they are way over priced in most cases and the economy has really taken a hit and you can see it in every facit of every market except precious metals.

I'm poor too. I don't have much money to spend on cards there, but at least I attend. BTW - The National does get to Cleveland on a regular basis, or at least it did before Baltimore replaced it.

[Ease]

Originally Posted by FUBAR

My Motto

If you don't like my prices, send over your wife and we can dicker!

LOL, i was wondering if anyone caught that.