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Old 08-05-2011, 08:28 PM
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I am not 100% convinced with that particular bat being dubbed THE "Black Betsy".....I would wager a heavy sum, that it was NOT the fabled bat.
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Old 08-05-2011, 08:38 PM
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PS - I wouldn't be surprised if within the next 15-20 years, a bat with a stronger claim to the moniker "Black Betsy" pops up, and the selling auction house touts it as such. Then what would happen to the value and bat that Heritage auctioned off?? I would hate to be that guy!!! But he would have good company (ie, Billy Crystal), as far as that goes.....
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Old 08-06-2011, 01:28 PM
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Let me begin by saying thank you for all the kind words about our auction. Obviously we were very pleased (though not particularly surprised) by the very strong results. Not only was the material first rate, to put it mildly, but our marketing department did a fantastic job of promoting the auction. Their biggest coup was a full page article in Tuesday's New York Times about The Lou Gehrig Collection, but we got press all over the place which brought some very serious new bidders to the auction, including some international heavy hitters garnered from considerable foreign press coverage. And, of course, our catalog designers crafted a true masterpiece--I doubt a single copy will end up in the trash. Thursday night was definitely a thrilling conclusion to a lot of hard work by a lot of people.

I certainly don't want to come off as defensive, but I did want to address the Black Betsy question. I've been working in sports auctions exclusively for twelve years and the bat has some of the strongest provenance I've ever encountered. You have numerous sources discussing the unusual curve of the Black Betsy. You have photos of Jackson with the bat. There are newspaper articles dating over decades. There is the will, and the letter from the heir. The notion that Jackson saved two very distinctively curved bats with early Spalding imprints for over four decades but that he and his family only acknowledged the existence of one seems astronomically improbable. We all know that PSA/DNA doesn't throw around GU 10 grades without good reason. Any smart collector knows that a little skepticism is a good thing, but this is evidence even the OJ and Casey Anthony jurors couldn't ignore. In other words, we'll take that "heavy sum" action. I'll be looking to retire in twenty years.
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I wouldn't be so quick to jump on that "action" Johnathan. Whoever made Mr. Crystal whole for that glove he bought?!?! Or is that money just thrown down the drain? I understand your belief that the bat was "indeed" Black Betsy, and I understand your conviction, and you job position forces you to believe that position. Don't think what I said will never happen though. It is more likely to happen than not.....
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You didn't have to 'delete' your post packs!! You spoke the truth, and had the courage to post what others are thinking. I definitely wondered why they there is no mention whatsoever when faced with conflicting info!
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I also think the post Packs made didn't need to be deleted. I was thinking the exact same thing.
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