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Old 08-14-2011, 09:29 PM
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Default look again at the tape on the two

my guess is he removed the tape, because he added the J Jackson, then polishes up the bat, cuz the coloring is slightly off from the 1st one, but the markings are identical especially at the end of the barrel. Then adds back some other tape and makes it looks old, but he needs to remove the tape b4 polishing, other wise the bat is 2 different colors, after his polish.

And what u found. Now tomorrow or later in the week I'll go thru my old posts cuz I'm sure I noticed something about this seller in the past.
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Old 08-14-2011, 10:05 PM
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my guess is he removed the tape, because he added the J Jackson, then polishes up the bat, cuz the coloring is slightly off from the 1st one, but the markings are identical especially at the end of the barrel. Then adds back some other tape and makes it looks old, but he needs to remove the tape b4 polishing, other wise the bat is 2 different colors, after his polish.

And what u found. Now tomorrow or later in the week I'll go thru my old posts cuz I'm sure I noticed something about this seller in the past.
A few years ago, there was one seller in particular whom we caught buying blank 125 bats on eBay and reselling them on eBay after he'd added the names of players like Ruth and Jackson to the barrels. He might have added side writing. The guy got suspended, at least for a while. He called himself "bluechip" something or other.

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Old 08-14-2011, 10:15 PM
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A few years ago, there was one seller in particular whom we caught buying blank 125 bats on eBay and reselling them on eBay after he'd added the names of players like Ruth and Jackson to the barrels. The guy got suspended, at least for a while. He called himself "bluechip" something or other.
from New Jersey by any chance do u recall?

very interesting
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Old 08-15-2011, 05:27 AM
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I feel bad for Dave Bushing who bought the bat I believe. Cause it most likely was a decal it would only be worth under $1,000 Right???
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Old 08-15-2011, 06:04 AM
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I feel bad for Dave Bushing who bought the bat I believe. Cause it most likely was a decal it would only be worth under $1,000 Right???
As I understand it, there is ample evidence that major leaguers used decal bats. If a 40JJ decal bat matched Jackson's known preferences for weight and length, and if the knob looks right, then a case could be made that such a decal bat was a professional model and worth more than 2 or 3 thousand bucks. I am curious to learn how this bat will be evaluated.
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Old 08-15-2011, 06:36 AM
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As I understand it, there is ample evidence that major leaguers used decal bats. If a 40JJ decal bat matched Jackson's known preferences for weight and length, and if the knob looks right, then a case could be made that such a decal bat was a professional model and worth more than 2 or 3 thousand bucks. I am curious to learn how this bat will be evaluated.

Mark- You have your information mixed up. Decal bats with 40JJ, 40 TC etc, even though 99% of them are hand turned, are just store model bats. They weren't used by the player themselves. The argument is for the earlier hillerich and son's that said Made By in the center logo.

The bat is not a pro model by any stretch of the imagination.

A 40jj without a decal is a few hundred bucks at best.
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Old 08-15-2011, 06:54 AM
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Mark- You have your information mixed up. Decal bats with 40JJ, 40 TC etc, even though 99% of them are hand turned, are just store model bats. They weren't used by the player themselves. The argument is for the earlier hillerich and son's that said Made By in the center logo.

The bat is not a pro model by any stretch of the imagination.

A 40jj without a decal is a few hundred bucks at best.
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Yes, you are, of course, right. So what is it about the bat that makes it worth 2 grand?
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Old 11-11-2011, 05:29 PM
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Default He's back.....and so is the Franken-bat

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VERY-OLD-191...item19caa30b1e
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Old 08-15-2011, 08:46 PM
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no doubt the same bat. look at the grain patterns under the J.J. there the same. crooked seller if you ask me.
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:30 PM
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Default He's baaaack....

123yrunvs is back as ebay seller needtopayforwedding (both from NJ)

Be very wary of any bats from this "new" version of this seller

bought:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/230679811866

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/VERY-OLD-BAS...item415e4a3cdf
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Old 10-16-2011, 07:07 AM
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Default He forgets to say "or signed by the seller"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VERY-OLD-BAS...item415e4a5b36

"I DO NOT KNOW IF IT WAS SIGNED BY BABE RUTH'S HAND OR SOME CHILD."
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