Johnny Damon -HOF?

Mikehealer · #1 08-16-2011, 02:01 PM

He throws like a girl.

Kzoo · #2 08-17-2011, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikehealer

He throws like a girl.

This is very true. Imagine if Damon had an arm like Vladimir Guerrero did back in his Montreal days. Yikes! That would have greatly improved his HOF chances. I just can't see him in the Hall with that weak of an arm, regardless of his other stats. HOF's should be all around great players, IMO.

Matt

Jay Wolt · #3 08-17-2011, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kzoo

HOF's should be all around great players, IMO.

Matt

What about a David Ortiz DH type?

packs · #4 08-18-2011, 12:55 AM

Edgar Martinez is a HOFer in my opinion.

Ladder7 · #5 08-18-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

What about a David Ortiz DH type?

No to Papi (PEDs) and especially Manny.

Back to Damon.

novakjr · #6 08-18-2011, 03:57 PM

Edgar is NOT a hall of famer, same for Ortiz...I understand the greatest DH argument, but ANYONE can DH. So you cannot compare a DH's numbers to other DH's, you must compare them to EVERY player at EVERY position to see how they stack up.. I'd rather see Larry Walker in WAY before Edgar...

D. Bergin · #7 08-18-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by novakjr

Edgar is NOT a hall of famer, same for Ortiz...I understand the greatest DH argument, but ANYONE can DH. So you cannot compare a DH's numbers to other DH's, you must compare them to EVERY player at EVERY position to see how they stack up.. I'd rather see Larry Walker in WAY before Edgar...

Unfortunately Larry Walker suffers from another stigma, that may keep several players out of the Hall. "The Colorado Effect".

We've created so many reasons to keep guys out.......5-10 years down the road, all we'll be left with are guys like Damon, Jeter, Biggio and a few others.

Even power hitters who never got connected to PED's, like Jim Thome and Frank Thomas............may have trouble navigating the "well, they must have been on them like everybody else", mentality.

That's why I chuckle when I hear people claim the standards have become relaxed.

rhettyeakley · #8 08-18-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by novakjr

Edgar is NOT a hall of famer, same for Ortiz...I understand the greatest DH argument, but ANYONE can DH. So you cannot compare a DH's numbers to other DH's, you must compare them to EVERY player at EVERY position to see how they stack up.. I'd rather see Larry Walker in WAY before Edgar...

ANYONE can DH? What does that even mean? If ANYONE can do it then why aren't ALL other DH's #'s the same as Edgar's? Silly argment.

Peter_Spaeth · #9 08-18-2011, 07:25 PM

If Damon should hang around to get 3000, that will be the signal that 3000 is no longer an automatic milestone. The HOF is overstuffed already; if Damon gets in it becomes a joke.

novakjr · #10 08-18-2011, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

ANYONE can DH? What does that even mean? If ANYONE can do it then why aren't ALL other DH's #'s the same as Edgar's? Silly argment.

What it meant was that any player at any position can be a DH. 1B, C, RF, LF, SS, 3B, CF and 2B, any of them can DH. The only reason they don't DH is because they CAN play the field.. A DH's numbers HAVE to be compared to EVERYONE in the league(non-pitchers of course).. Basically, there is no such thing as BEST DH, because there is almost always someone at a position who is BETTER. Babe Ruth could've been a DH, Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, Mantle, Ted Williams too. Anyone and every last position player throughout the history of the league is technically a DH who plays the field. I think the designated part confuses everyone. At the core of it, he's just a hitter like everyone else.. Basically, Edgar is the best of the defensively deficient, gimpy and old...

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