How to Scam and Make $ on eBay...

[CharleyBrown]

Just realized that I can still leave feedback by going through my purchase history...

Now to decide if I should contact them again, or if I should simply leave the negative feedback.

[bobbyw8469]

May I ask what VCP grade level you paid for that card? I am guessing you overpaid for it?

[CharleyBrown]

Bobby, I paid around $170, so yes, I clearly overpaid for the card. Overpaying isn't a huge deal to me, though. I knew deep down when bidding that I was overpaying. It was more about proving the point that their listings are bogus.

[Brendan]

Originally Posted by CharleyBrown

Just realized that I can still leave feedback by going through my purchase history...

Now to decide if I should contact them again, or if I should simply leave the negative feedback.

I'd be curious to know how they could keep 100% feedback for so long while clearly overstating the card's grade. Why don't you message them so you can find out? Maybe they'll try and pay you or something?

[U240robert]

I remember 15 or so years ago you could do well
buying raw cards off of Ebay and getting them graded.
It seems that mentality is still prevalent with some, and yes it's
greed. These shady dealers, although not actually breaking laws, are skating on the edge of the law and definitely unethical.
In most cases they seem to deal in cards under $1000- which makes
a difficult case. If it was a huge amount, it's possible the law would be all over dealers like this. But it's not worth it for cards that sell for a few hundred if that.

Now Candiman11, I dealt with him a few times. I agree with what was originally said. He always would photograph the cards at an angle so you couldn't quite see the condition accurately. Then he makes a disclaimer that he doesn't 'grade' cards. If you're a dealer then you should be able to grade cards.
I bought cards from him a few times, nothing big mostly '71 and '72 Topps. I sent back my last order as being not acceptable . He refunded my money probably cause the order was 20 cards and thats alot of negatives to leave.

One of my fondest ebay memories came from him.
I bid on '72 Clemente, '72 Mays, '71 Ryan, '72 Fisk, '72 Carew- among the 20 or so. The last 4 hrs of the auction, the ebay search function went down. You couldn't search for cards. Only way you could bid was if you already had a bid in.
Well for less than $40 I got all those cards. The Ryan was $7 the Clemente was $4
When I got the cards in the mail, I was pleased with the condition.
Ironically, ebay sent me an email with a 10% discount on my next order.
If I was the dealer I would have been furious.

[CharleyBrown]

I reached out to the seller again tonight, as I thought it was the best thing to do before leaving negative feedback.

They were very apologetic, and offered to either take the card for a full refund, plus pay for return shipping and PSA grading fees, or allow me to keep the card for a partial refund. I still am not a fan of the way they list and title their auctions, though at least they owned up to it in this case.

[ctownboy]

I say leave them a Negative.

I think they know what they are doing because:

1) They don't get the cards graded.
2) They have scans that don't show the flaws in the card
3) They have descriptions that are not accurate.

If you return the card or take a refund, they continue to get away with what they are doing. If you leave a Negative then maybe people will see that and think twice about bidding on their cards or bidding higher on their cards.

By paying you off, they are making money in the long run, as compared to getting a Negative for not accurately describing their cards.

David

[Brendan]

If I were you I'd take the partial refund and leave a negative.

A nice fat negative with bad DSR's would really hurt them.

[itjclarke]

But I was watching this auction throughout, and have watched several others from the previously mentioned sellers. I cannot believe the sales price! This card is being adverstised with two hairline creases, which per PSA cannot grade higher than a 4 technically. That means this card cannot be higher than a 4, and could very possibly grade lower. However it sold for nearly $600 more than the most recent PSA-4 did.. it even got more than the last two PSA-5 T202 Cobb's!!! How???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/140593441215...84.m1423.l2649

Also interesting to note two of the high bidders have only bid this sellers auctions.. 100%. I hate to point a finger without knowing facts, but this looks really shady to me.