Johnny Damon -HOF?

Peter_Spaeth · #1 08-18-2011, 07:25 PM

If Damon should hang around to get 3000, that will be the signal that 3000 is no longer an automatic milestone. The HOF is overstuffed already; if Damon gets in it becomes a joke.

Orioles1954 · #2 08-18-2011, 07:30 PM

Edgar Martinez was a fan favorite in Seattle, I understand that. He should go in their Hall of Fame. His numbers, even if he was not a DH makes him a charter member of the "Hall of Very Good" along with guys like Baines, Pinson, Santo, etc. etc.

packs · #3 08-18-2011, 07:32 PM

I don't understand the anyone can DH argument at all. You are a pure hitter or you are not. I don't think a position like third base, Edgar's original position, carries a premium like say, catcher. I find it far fetched to say that Edgar wouldn't have been as great a hitter as he was if he was playing the field. The only difference in his stats would be that he was a liability in the field.

Edgar Martinez was an incredible hitter and his ability in my opinion puts him in the HOF class. I don't think there is any comparison between him and other "very good players." He was an elite hitter without any qualifiers.

Orioles1954 · #4 08-18-2011, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

I don't understand the anyone can DH argument at all. You are a pure hitter or you are not. I don't think a position like third base, Edgar's original position, carries a premium like say, catcher. I find it far fetched to say that Edgar wouldn't have been as great a hitter as he was if he was playing the field. The only difference in his stats would be that he was a liability in the field.

Edgar Martinez was an incredible hitter and his ability in my opinion puts him in the HOF class. I don't think there is any comparison between him and other "very good players." He was an elite hitter without any qualifiers.

Let's not kid ourselves. EG was a very good hitter and a perennial Silver Slugger. However, look at his stats and comps. EVEN if he did play a position, EG is on the outside looking it at the HOF in Cooperstown.

packs · #5 08-18-2011, 07:44 PM

I disagree. He led the league in hitting twice, doubles twice, OBP three times. He is number 22 on the career OBP list. There are zero people in front of him who are eligible for the HOF that are not already in. For his career he hit 60 points above the league average. His career OPS is 200 points above league average. I consider him an elite player.

dherm360 · #6 08-22-2011, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If Damon should hang around to get 3000, that will be the signal that 3000 is no longer an automatic milestone. The HOF is overstuffed already; if Damon gets in it becomes a joke.

this would be similar to Jaime Moyer thinking he can pitch 3 more years and get to 300 (I think he would be 53). No way he is a HOFer

Damon is an above average player not a HOFer

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