Grade the graders

[Edwolf1963]

I always get a laugh out of the occasional eBay listing that has some card slabbed by a company you never or have rarely heard of, and then if per say it's graded a 6 by them - the seller has a " = PSA 6" in the title. One guy actually adds a grade, IE: "SGC40 = PSA4"

Mine...

SGC 80
PSA 3MC
GAI 1.5
BVG 5
PRO 0

I've seen a lot of BVG's recently graded well/consistent of late, had many of the 4 and above cross-over to same or higher on SGC (when broken out)

My issues with PSA have more to do with Customer Service than the ever-growing number of cards with creases and paper-loss graded as 4's and 5's. BVG and SGC couldn't be more accommodating at the shows. PSA is like going to the Dept of Motor Vehicles - this form, in this type of sleeve, this way or get out. I asked if I could have no qualifiers on my last order w/them (aren't those the kiss of death), was told no problem at a show last year, clearly noted on my order form where they told me to put it - then get 2 back with qualifiers .. wrote 3 emails asking why and for refund/regrade, after week and a half or being ignored, then "well think about it" type of responses, I get a response that they will do one and not the other (..why, I still don't know) - and the one I had to fill out a special form, send it in separately, note this and that in triplicate - all for their mistakes to begin with!!!

[toledo_mudhen]

Originally Posted by Edwolf1963

I always get a laugh out of the occasional eBay listing that has some card slabbed by a company you never or have rarely heard of, and then if per say it's graded a 6 by them - the seller has a " = PSA 6" in the title. One guy actually adds a grade, IE: "SGC40 = PSA4"

Mine...

SGC 80
PSA 3MC
GAI 1.5
BVG 5
PRO 0

I've seen a lot of BVG's recently graded well/consistent of late, had many of the 4 and above cross-over to same or higher on SGC (when broken out)

My issues with PSA have more to do with Customer Service than the ever-growing number of cards with creases and paper-loss graded as 4's and 5's. BVG and SGC couldn't be more accommodating at the shows. PSA is like going to the Dept of Motor Vehicles - this form, in this type of sleeve, this way or get out. I asked if I could have no qualifiers on my last order w/them (aren't those the kiss of death), was told no problem at a show last year, clearly noted on my order form where they told me to put it - then get 2 back with qualifiers .. wrote 3 emails asking why and for refund/regrade, after week and a half or being ignored, then "well think about it" type of responses, I get a response that they will do one and not the other (..why, I still don't know) - and the one I had to fill out a special form, send it in separately, note this and that in triplicate - all for their mistakes to begin with!!!

Like someone said; "At PSA We're not Happy until You're Not Happy"

[ullmandds]

I'd grade PSA a big fat F on this one! Are you kidding me?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/T206-PIEDMON...item588fff19f7

[glynparson]

Cobb has the mk qualifier, dont see it as misgraded.

[ullmandds]

Glyn...are you telling me that if you take away the MK qualifier...which affects marks on both front and back...this card should grade ex?

I see at least 2-4 creases...a stain...rounded corners...I think this is enough to disqualify this card from being graded ex...or even vg?!?!

[vintagetoppsguy]

I would grade the card VG. I don't see any creases, but I do see a stain on the front (between the buttons) and the back is just "dirty."

It could have had the ST or MK qualifer, but I think the MK is the better choice since the marks are so obvious.

[ullmandds]

Hmmm...perhaps my eyes are too keen to be a grader...or just too poor...BUT...I think I see a crease to the left of Ty's forehead and what appears to be a full width horizontal crease through where his moustache would be?

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen

Like someone said; "At PSA We're not Happy until You're Not Happy"

Interesting statement.

I read this thread (see below) several weeks ago, and I think this sums it up best. Many people don't see any point in renewing their PSA membership. The several that will renew like 'jimrad' along with several others who agreed with him are doing it for all the wrong reasons. Many people aren't happy with PSA, the service, the SMR, the membership, and the grading but since they are neck deep PSA cards, they blindly support the company and basically donate $99 every year to the company for their membership hoping the company will continue to succeed.

http://forums.collectors.com/message...39&STARTPAGE=1

[old-baseball]

There's always going to be some subjectivity to the placement of a numerical grade, but unless the card is a previously unknown issue, you should be able to identify it with 100% accuracy.