Circa 1846 Daguerreotype � Alexander Joy Cartwright debate

bmarlowe1 · #1 10-17-2011, 08:52 PM

F was IMO incorrectly identified as William Tucker in Baseball in the Garden of Eden.

Leon · #2 10-18-2011, 09:11 AM

I am going to un-stick this thread sometime today. At this point, with everything taken into account, I don't feel a poll will prove anything more than has been debated here. Both parties have been advised of what is happening with the thread and both are fine with it. I want to thank Corey and Mark for their professionalism and civility in a very important and impassioned debate. Of course the thread will remain open for comments but it will be like any other thread and start moving down the page as other threads are responded to. I have to admit I didn't invest the amount of time needed to read the whole article, though I did skim over it and hit the high points. That, along with this thread, has helped me gain knowledge concerning photos and this photo in particular. I personally thank both parties for that too. Thanks also to our board members for their responses. I hope everyone has enjoyed the thread as much as I have. best regards

GaryPassamonte · #3 10-18-2011, 10:39 AM

Barry- Didn't you have an ambrotype with a player wearing an earring many moons ago in one of your auctions?

barrysloate · #4 10-18-2011, 10:43 AM

I did indeed. That's the first thing I thought of when Mark posted that. Perhaps it was a sign of virility, or a bohemian style of a sorts.

19cbb · #5 10-18-2011, 11:00 AM

Do we know what brand of cigar was 'Subject G' smoking?

I've heard Doc Adams liked to roll his own... perhaps a sign of virility?

bmarlowe1 · #6 10-18-2011, 11:15 AM

I contacted two dag experts and got basically the same answer - dags with men wearing earrings are very uncommon, and for what they have seen, they are associated with sailors.

oldjudge · #7 10-18-2011, 08:45 PM

Before this thread slips into the depths of Network54, I was just wondering if anyone on the board, other than Corey, really believes that Alexander Cartwright is in that six player dag.

oldjudge · #8 10-18-2011, 10:53 AM

"Among sailors, a pierced earlobe was a symbol that the wearer had sailed around the world or had crossed the equator. In addition, it is commonly held[citation needed] that a gold earring was worn by sailors in payment for a proper burial in the event that they might drown at sea. Should their bodies have been washed up on shore, it was hoped that the earring would serve as payment for "a proper Christian burial". Regardless of this expression, the practice predates Christianity and can be traced back as far as ancient Greece where the gold paid the ferryman, Charon, to provide passage across the river Acheron to Hades."---------interesting information from Wikipedia

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
1928 Fro Joy Babe Ruth - Authentic?	Clutch-Hitter	Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions	27	07-05-2011 11:30 PM
- SOLD - Alexander Cartwright Letter	aaroncc	Baseball Memorabilia B/S/T	2	04-27-2010 08:41 AM
FS: 1923 V100 Willard Chocolate Grover Cleveland Alexander PSA 3 (mk) but clean	packs	1920 to 1949 Baseball cards- B/S/T	0	04-04-2010 01:31 AM
PRICE REDUCED - 1944-45 Albertype HOF Postcard - Alexander Cartwright (SGC 80)	bcbgcbrcb	1920 to 1949 Baseball cards- B/S/T	2	10-07-2009 09:59 AM
Cartwright Documents: Signature Question	Archive	Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used	2	11-14-2008 01:08 PM