Mathewson Secretarial Autograph OK'd by JSA??

travrosty · #1 10-19-2011, 12:38 PM

Can i blame them? yes i can. there is no difference between automatically failing a morales item because it has a morales sticker on it and failing a roste item because roste sends it in and they dont like roste. It's not about whether you like the submitter or what sticker on it. Its about the AUTOGRAPH! That's what it has always suppose to have been about. and its not anymore.

funny,no one comments on the actual substance of the haulsofshame article, whether or not they thinkt he matty signatures are good or not.

if all the mattys they certified went to auction in the same month, they would be accepted at all the auction houses, how many morales are accepted? NONE. so figure out which does more damage.

my views on morales are well known, so don't pull that baloney on me. i don't do personal attackes on other websites. you are confusing my views with the views of others that post. i am my own man.

travrosty · #2 10-19-2011, 09:26 PM

I would go with ron, he's pretty good.

Intentionally poisoning the food supply (your assessment of Morales) would seem to be worse than an occasional outbreak of hepatitis, (psa, jsa) except if the outbreak of hepatitis is in Mexico City (pop. 20 million) and the food poisoning is in Freeport, Kansas (pop. 5)

That's essentially the difference between (psa, jsa) and (Morales.) in my opinion. PSA, JSA everywhere, Morales, uhhh... not so much.

How many morales items have you bought, sold, traded, and dealt with lately, and how many psa, and jsa? That's the question, and how big are the $$ signs attached to these pieces.

Morales certed Mickey Mantles sell for $10 (even less), not saying they are not a problem in the hobby at all, but these matty pieces sell for $10,000. Shouldn't we figure out if they are good or not instead of just "trusting" some sticker. I will take Ron K. on my team any day if I had a team.

I will defer to the long time experts on matty, but if they are bad, holy cow batman!

HRBAKER · #3 10-19-2011, 09:35 PM

"Just show me the Carfax."

Sadly, that's what this segment of the hobby is devolving to.

prewarsports · #4 10-19-2011, 10:11 PM

I know Ron is knowledgable and a good guy, I am not saying that at all. What I am saying is that autograph authentication is a game of opinions and one persons opinion does not make it a fact either way. I am not an authenticator and never want to be, but I think if I were doing a story on Mathewson autographs calling them fake and secretarial as if it was common knowledge and a FACT I would make sure that assesment was based on more than just the opinion of one person.

They may indeed be secretarial, I am not saying they are not, it is just shotty research to claim fact when indeed the basis of your entire article is opinion regardless of how much weight you put on the opinion.

David Atkatz · #5 10-19-2011, 10:28 PM

Unfortunately, these days the basis of an entire purchase is based on opinion. And not the opinion of the purchaser. (Or what the autograph looks like.)

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