Authenticity question

Runscott · #1 10-30-2011, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

In other words, if someone was selling a Mantle signed bat with a COA from Scoreboard, and even if the autograph was authentic, the bat didn't come from Scoreboard.

Also, I have never seen an autograph with a COA from Morales that is authentic, but just because the COA was issued from Morales I'm not going to assume it is a forgery. I will always examine the autograph first and foremost, because you never know, Morales might get lucky and get one right.

Christopher, Thanks but I was quoting a previous response to one of my posts - I guess I needed to telegraph my intent.

Originally asked in the very first post: "I wanted to know if it looks ok to people who have more expertise in this."

The conversation took a turn from 'LOOKING' at the signatures, to evaluating the legitimacy of the paper documentation. I think that's a backwards way of doing things. I might have missed something, but after Barry and I posted the first two responses, I don't think anyone else ever said anything about the actual signatures. On the other hand, there were several who have much more experience than me in evaluating signatures, who chose instead to evaluate the paper. Curious.

drc · #2 10-30-2011, 01:48 PM

The classic forged Scoreboard COA was for a Babe Ruth autographed "signed in the presence" of SB staff. Someone posted a photo of it on this board once.

The problem for SB is their real COAs were these cheap pre-printed paper certificates, not hand signed, serial numbered or anything. Very simple to copy. In recent years Goldin has attached holograms to the signed items, either his or the players', so it's a different verification story. I've even seen the MLB hologram on some of his offerings. Though I believe he still uses those generic cheap COAs.

I've seen Goldin hologramed items later given LOAs by PSA, JSA and Mike Gutierrez, and he really did represent folks like Ripken Jr, Barry Bonds and Shaquille O'Neal-- for what that's worth.

And, no, I own no Goldin or SB items. Just observations for an observer.

But, yes, about the cheapest, easiest to copy COAs ever.

perezfan · #3 10-30-2011, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runscott

Christopher, Thanks but I was quoting a previous response to one of my posts - I guess I needed to telegraph my intent.

Originally asked in the very first post: "I wanted to know if it looks ok to people who have more expertise in this."

The conversation took a turn from 'LOOKING' at the signatures, to evaluating the legitimacy of the paper documentation. I think that's a backwards way of doing things. I might have missed something, but after Barry and I posted the first two responses, I don't think anyone else ever said anything about the actual signatures. On the other hand, there were several who have much more experience than me in evaluating signatures, who chose instead to evaluate the paper. Curious.

To the original poster.... I think the sigs are legit. Just my opinion.

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