I conducted myself poorly and I apologize

[thekingofclout]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Chris,
I appreciate your thoughts on the matter but this quote of yours is something I don't understand: "Richard, when you said you were done with that thread earlier, you continued to pile on David while saying you were going to be the grown up in the situation."
Chris, you specifically refer to me as piling on David.
If you want to consider my apology here to be piling on then you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
But the only post I made in that initial long thread after I said I would no longer keep up the arguing was to show a Babe Ruth autograph in quotes, when that question came up on the thread.
As to the thread with the poll,,, I made posts about Willie Mays, Brooks Robinson and card show experiences with them and a COA about Mantle autographs where I admittedly made an error.
Unless I have missed something I cannot find one post in those two threads where I "piled on" David after I said I would stop.

Uh oh...

[Forever Young]

BTW….Sarcastic should have been inserted after my comment. David is not the worst I have met in this hobby..not even close.

[thekingofclout]

Originally Posted by Forever Young

BTW….Sarcastic should have been inserted after my comment. David is not the worst I have met in this hobby..not even close.

You're right Ben... I am!

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by thekingofclout

You're right Ben... I am!

Actually...my vote is for Graig Kreindler... he is one mean, crazy mo fo.

[travrosty]

Richard apologized so I think it is fair to accept it.

[Runscott]

These recent threads are about to reduce me to begging: Can we please separate this forum into TWO separate forums, so the vintage memorabilia collectors can avoid this tripe?

1) vintage memorabilia (non-COA stuff)
2) autographs and game-used

[batsballsbases]

Here Here. I agree, Richard my friend ENOUGH PLEASE!

[sayhey24]

Agreed that that is the worst apology ever.

Also agree that a separate autograph forum be created. But please don't include game used items with autographs. Just like most memorabilia collectors, we don't want to be subjected to the endless threads about the latest bogus Ruth or Mantle autograph spotted on ebay.

Greg

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by sayhey24

Agreed that that is the worst apology ever.

Also agree that a separate autograph forum be created. But please don't include game used items with autographs. Just like most memorabilia collectors, we don't want to be subjected to the endless threads about the latest bogus Ruth or Mantle autograph spotted on ebay.

Greg

What about all the squabbles about bats and jerseys that are certified as game-used, but end up not being?

To someone who doesn't collect game-used or autographs, they seem like part of the same cluster f**k

Scott <== never wanted to be a fireman

[thekingofclout]

Originally Posted by sayhey24

Agreed that that is the worst apology ever.

Also agree that a separate autograph forum be created. But please don't include game used items with autographs. Just like most memorabilia collectors, we don't want to be subjected to the endless threads about the latest bogus Ruth or Mantle autograph spotted on ebay.

Greg

Originally Posted by Runscott

What about all the squabbles about bats and jerseys that are certified as game-used, but end up not being?

To someone who doesn't collect game-used or autographs, they seem like part of the same cluster f**k

Scott <== never wanted to be a fireman

That's a good idea Greg, a very good idea. And Scott, I can't remember the last time there was a squabble regarding Bats and Jerseys being legit. I'm sure there have been, but it would be miniscule compared to autographs.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by thekingofclout

That's a good idea Greg, a very good idea. And Scott, I can't remember the last time there was a squabble regarding Bats and Jerseys being legit. I'm sure there have been, but it would be miniscule compared to autographs.

I am sure most everyone knows already but the latest FBI bust involved six guys selling bogus jerseys. None of the names on that FBI list sold autographs as far as I know. There is massive dirt involved in both autographs and game used. Though I would have to concede that there is more dirt in autographs.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by thekingofclout

That's a good idea Greg, a very good idea. And Scott, I can't remember the last time there was a squabble regarding Bats and Jerseys being legit. I'm sure there have been, but it would be miniscule compared to autographs.

That could be. I just know that I've never trusted modern game-used anything. It was very refreshing the other day to see you guys i.d. the Munson World Series jersey. I love hearing that things are as real as they are certified to be.

Autographs are just nuts - as a kid who used to get free autographs from pro players (I still have every one of them), I can't imagine standing in line and paying a guy to sign something. I have only bought autographs from dead guys.

Trimmed and altered cards are just as bad.

All of the above are why I ended up gravitating to cool old stuff that no one would have any incentive to mess with.

[ramram]

The Memorabilia side has finally arrived!!

These squabbles used to just be a part of the Card side of Net54.

Rob M.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Runscott

These recent threads are about to reduce me to begging: Can we please separate this forum into TWO separate forums, so the vintage memorabilia collectors can avoid this tripe?

1) vintage memorabilia (non-COA stuff)
2) autographs and game-used

When the autograph stuff really started to take over this side of the board we had more than a few non-auto memorabilia collectors mention that they'd like to see a split..I know that a few of those members have nearly stopped participating in this forum and honestly as a non-auto collector myself I've found myself much less interested in what's going on over here and I'm a moderator!! I hate to see what's happened recently as this side has almost always been fairly peaceful..The apology above was just ridiculous IMO. Some people love the drama though.