E90-1 Joe Jackson (PSA 2) REAL?

[vintagecpa]

Jim, it isn't the same holder. If you look at the "NM-M 8" on both slabs, the spacing is different. The barcode looks off also. I now suspect the original Joe Jackson and Campanella card still exist in the original slab as opposed to someone cracking the case and replacing the card. Purely speculation on my part.

[YankeeCollector]

Originally Posted by vintagecpa

Jim, it isn't the same holder. If you look at the "NM-M 8" on both slabs, the spacing is different. The barcode looks off also. I now suspect the original Joe Jackson and Campanella card still exist in the original slab as opposed to someone cracking the case and replacing the card. Purely speculation on my part.

You may be right but where do these scammers get the PSA Holders? Wow, this is crazy! Do you think a major auction house like Goodwin would ever get fooled like this?

[CW]

Originally Posted by YankeeCollector

You may be right but where do these scammers get the PSA Holders? Wow, this is crazy! Do you think a major auction house like Goodwin would ever get fooled like this?

Judging from the photos of these illegitimate cards, all the edges appear to be frosted. The scammers are simply prying apart legit slabs, reprinting fake flips, inserting reprint cards and resealing the slabs with glue (or some other method). A major auction house would spot the frosted edges.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by YankeeCollector

You may be right but where do these scammers get the PSA Holders? Wow, this is crazy! Do you think a major auction house like Goodwin would ever get fooled like this?

Jim, they just crack a cheap card out of a holder. There was a scam a while back where some forgers had gotten hold of new slabs and blank labels, but the goal there was to pass something off and have it stay passed off as real. The guys creating cards like this Jackson are complete idiots and always get caught eventually. It's too much money, too crappy of a product and too wide of a trail.

[YankeeCollector]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Jim, they just crack a cheap card out of a holder. There was a scam a while back where some forgers had gotten hold of new slabs and blank labels, but the goal there was to pass something off and have it stay passed off as real. The guys creating cards like this Jackson are complete idiots and always get caught eventually. It's too much money, too crappy of a product and too wide of a trail.

What a disgrace!!! There has to be something the grading companies can do to prevent this with their holders.

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by YankeeCollector

What a disgrace!!! There has to be something the grading companies can do to prevent this with their holders.

I don't think Becket slabs can be pried apart. I break cards out of slabs all the time and It's very hard to open a Becket slab without completely destroying it.