2012 Standard Catalog of Vintage Baseball Cards

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I think most here would agree that the standard is a valuable reference for checklists and to help identify issues one is not familiar with...BUT...is not terribly useful for valuations of cards...as prices fluctuate on an almost daily basis. Past auctions and sales is the only really effective way to value a card at a given time.

Yes, that's always been true; however, it didn't stop us from having discussions.

[pgellis]

Maybe there's no discussion because not a lot of people have purchased the book yet. I collect only T206 so I don't really have a reason to purchase this book. Also, along with the "disappointment" in this edition, I believe a lot of people probably passed on purchasing this issue.

If you would like to discuss the pricing of T206 on this forum, why don't you post what you would like to discuss. I'm sure a lot of people would weigh in on it if it was right in front of them.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by pgellis

Maybe there's no discussion because not a lot of people have purchased the book yet. I collect only T206 so I don't really have a reason to purchase this book. Also, along with the "disappointment" in this edition, I believe a lot of people probably passed on purchasing this issue.

If you would like to discuss the pricing of T206 on this forum, why don't you post what you would like to discuss. I'm sure a lot of people would weigh in on it if it was right in front of them.

I did post - it was regarding the first 150 commons in the set. My guess is that a premium was being added for the ones with the '150' back. I also asked about two specific E90-1 cards. I know the market values of these two particular examples, but I thought it was strange that the book value was so out of line, and was requesting thoughts. It might be that some of you guys have time to study every card issue and memorize prices, but I'm not that far along yet - was hoping I could get some guidance as to which prices were accurate, and which ones to just cross out.

But you're right - I'll just start separate threads regarding the specific cards (or sets) I'm interested in and begin taking notes in my catalog. As mentioned previously, I thought there might be stuff posted already, and I simply did not want to re-hash the same old stuff and bore the hell out of everyone.

As is, that's what I've done anyway. Sorry about that.

[pgellis]

Originally Posted by Runscott

I did post - it was regarding the first 150 commons in the set. My guess is that a premium was being added for the ones with the '150' back. I also asked about two specific E90-1 cards. I know the market values of these two particular examples, but I thought it was strange that the book value was so out of line, and was requesting thoughts. It might be that some of you guys have time to study every card issue and memorize prices, but I'm not that far along yet - was hoping I could get some guidance as to which prices were accurate, and which ones to just cross out.

But you're right - I'll just start separate threads regarding the specific cards (or sets) I'm interested in and begin taking notes in my catalog. As mentioned previously, I thought there might be stuff posted already, and I simply did not want to re-hash the same old stuff and bore the hell out of everyone.

As is, that's what I've done anyway. Sorry about that.

My response to you was that many people (myself included) may not have the book yet, so unless you post what the prices are in your comments, how can we discuss whether the prices are out of line or not?

You would need to post what the prices in the book are for a bigger discussion to take place.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by pgellis

My response to you was that many people (myself included) may not have the book yet, so unless you post what the prices are in your comments, how can we discuss whether the prices are out of line or not?

You would need to post what the prices in the book are for a bigger discussion to take place.

Doh! Okay, I get it. Wow - how things have changed! Used to be everyone was dying to get this book. I have to tell you, I love mine, regardless of the inaccuracies - it's still very cool.

I'm farting off at the coffee shop at the moment, but I'll post some prices when I get back home - thanks for your response.

What do folks use in lieu of this catalog? Is everything online now?

[glchen]

I think one of the reasons that few people have picked up the latest catalog is that it received less than rave reviews including from Mr. Lemke. The thread on that is here: Link

I think many folks including myself are just sticking to older versions of the Standard Catalog.

[pgellis]

I know a lot of people use VCP. I don't use anything anymore. I only collect T206 and have been doing so for almost 7 years now, so I have a very good idea of pricing by watching eBay, auctions, B/S/T, etc. diligently for the past 6.5 years.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by pgellis

I know a lot of people use VCP. I don't use anything anymore. I only collect T206 and have been doing so for almost 7 years now, so I have a very good idea of pricing by watching eBay, auctions, B/S/T, etc. diligently for the past 6.5 years.

I was that way 6 years ago, but the market has changed a lot. The strangest thing I've noticed with T206's since I've been gone, is the Cobb Bat Off prices - just amazing. You are right, though - T206s are easy enough to keep on top of.

The T205s are a different story for me, as I never really collected them much anyway. I recently picked up an SGC 30 Wallace cap off, 1 line that I really have no idea what it is worth. I don't plan on selling it, but I'm curious what it's worth. Same for a few other variations such as the 2nd toughest Hoblitzell. I just don't see these cards on ebay, and the few that are there (such as the Matty 1-win) are priced to high to sell, so who knows what the market value is?