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Old 12-05-2011, 02:31 PM
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Lifetime road splits:

126 HRs
588 RBIs
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Old 12-05-2011, 02:38 PM
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Wow, didn't realize that the home/road splits were that diverse, still think that Santo was the most deserving in this group but those stats certainly shed a different light on it. I'm not sure historically, if Wrigley Field was as skewed a hitter's park as it was during the era that I grew up in the 1970's & 1980's.

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Old 12-05-2011, 03:04 PM
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I remember Santo as being regarded as the top 3rd sacker in the NL over many years. Induction thoroughly warranted IMHO.

Would love to have seen Hodges and Reynolds get in. Hodges based on his many years as one of the NL most feared sluggers and Reynolds for a period of years of dominance and excellence. Not a big advocate of the guys who amassed gaudy stats in part due to longevity.
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Old 12-05-2011, 03:04 PM
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What Frank and Peter said above -- agree completely. No way is he a HOFer.
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Old 12-05-2011, 03:28 PM
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I don't understand how Jim Kaat gets more votes than Gil Hodges. Didn't Allie Reynolds come within one vote of getting in the last time the Veterans Committee voted? Now he only gets 3 votes?
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Old 12-05-2011, 03:37 PM
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I don't understand how Jim Kaat gets more votes than Gil Hodges. Didn't Allie Reynolds come within one vote of getting in the last time the Veterans Committee voted? Now he only gets 3 votes?
I think these guys are afraid to put more that 1 player in at a time, so they sandbag a player or two.. First off, If they put all the deserving(or somewhat deserving) guys in, then there'll be nothing for them to vote on next time...Secondly, some of people don't think any of these guys belong, so if they were to elect too many at a time, people would start claiming that they opened the floodgates of mediocrity. Which many believe they've already done anyway, so why reinforce their suspicions....

I'm still kinda shocked that Hodges only got 9 votes though..
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Old 12-05-2011, 03:45 PM
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For all those who think Santo wasn't worthy, can you name 10 third baseman who were better? Curiously, there are roughly half as many third basemen in the Hall of Fame than any other position. The problem here isn't that Santo and Boyer aren't worthy — the problem is that the Hall of Fame voters don't know what a Hall of Fame third baseman looks like. If he's not a batting champ like Wade Boggs or a slugger like Mike Schmidt, they think he isn't worthy. They expect third baseman to hit like outfielders. But somehow, they overlook such offensive limitations in shortstops, second baseman and catchers ...
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I agree with fkw above...


Chris, yes I can. Frank Baker, Pie Traynor, Jimmy Collins, George Brett, George Kell, Eddie Mathews, Brooks Robinson, Wade Boggs, Mike Schmidt, Tony Perez, Darrell Evans and Freddie Lindstrom. There's a dozen. Didn't even have to use Eddie Yost. I'm kinda glad/ok that Santo got in... but then go back up there and read what fkw said, put those guys in, too. Along with Ed Reulbach. Then take a few guys out... that recently got in.
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