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Old 12-08-2011, 10:10 AM
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I emailed them during the auction and told them to take Joe Jackson off the description because it was misleading and inaccurate and made it seem like they were trumping up their auction. To their credit, they removed it.

I pointed out Maranville in lower left corner and provided sample pics for them. Eddie Collins is the guy above Maranville and Ed Roush above him.



I said I didn't think Speaker was in the pic but they didn't remove that.

The question for me is who are the two guys above Ruth. If we find them out, we find out the date, most likely. Typically it is the lesser known players that help to date the piece. Maybe it's Cicotte upper right but I just don't see it.

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Old 12-08-2011, 10:26 AM
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Steve O'Neil on the right above Ruth.
If that's Edd Roush it's not a very good likeness unlike the other players.
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thats not ed rousch on top left its Heinie Groh and ray schalk is top right

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My guess would be 1919 based on the Ruth pic, it is a famous photo that I believe was taken during his last season with Boston. It could have been from 1920 even but I don't think earlier than 1919.

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Thanks Sean, Here's Heinie Groh. I agree, it's him and not Roush.


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I don't think the one in the upper right is Cicotte, but rather Ray Schalk
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Pic of O'Neill


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Looks like a Universal Toy & Novelty Manufacturing Co. card:







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