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Old 12-10-2011, 08:08 PM
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He failed the first test, then a subsequent test, according to ESPN. So yep, maybe it's not real...


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I'm perfectly willing to wait and see what happens with the Braun thing, before making judgement...Obviously due to the past 20+ years we're all more that willing to assume the worst, and to an extent, I believe there would some justification in that assumption. He may or may not be in the wrong here, but we've gotta keep level heads and wait for everything to come out.

Having said that, he was probably using..
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Old 12-10-2011, 08:17 PM
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I really like Ryan Braun. I really hope this isn't true.
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Old 12-10-2011, 08:18 PM
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He failed the first test, then a subsequent test, according to ESPN. So yep, maybe it's not real...
The subsequent test, was just a second test on the original sample, to see if it was a natural variant or synthetic. Anything could've happened.. Like I said though, "he was probably using", I just wanna wait until everything's sorted out to make a definitive judgement..
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Old 12-10-2011, 08:46 PM
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Maybe he is innocent...they should have just told the MVP voters that he failed his test, but he's appealing it. I wonder how that would have changed the voting. Why was it withheld?

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The subsequent test, was just a second test on the original sample, to see if it was a natural variant or synthetic. Anything could've happened.. Like I said though, "he was probably using", I just wanna wait until everything's sorted out to make a definitive judgement..
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Old 12-10-2011, 08:58 PM
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I love MLB. I am sick of cheaters in MLB. This can be said for NFL and some other sports. What should bother anyone that pays for a ticket to a game or spends money towards professional sports or has a son playing sports is they have to compete against these cheaters and perhaps lose out at different levels in ball, whether it is high school, college, minors, or pro level. I would love to see all the major sports get uber serious about ridding cheaters from sports (Specifically, those that take hgh, drug enhancers for performance) There is nothing like seeing a natural athlete do their thing. I am hopeful Braun is still that athlete. If not, lump him in with Bonds, A-Roid, Sosa, etc. - These guys mean nothing to me.
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Old 12-10-2011, 09:00 PM
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Perhaps the test results were withheld from the MVP voters because Braun indicated it was an error and they didn't want to hose him over for the MVP award (if it was an error). If it's not an error then they just hosed over Matt Kemp. I'd have voted for Kemp if I were voting. I just hope that there was an error. Baseball doesn't need anymore of this crap.
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Anybody else sick of MLB?

Yep, have been for quite some time now.
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Old 12-10-2011, 09:37 PM
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This is exactly why I only watch track & field. No drugs.
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This is exactly why I only watch track & field. No drugs.

and female body building
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:24 AM
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Anybody else sick of MLB?

Yep, have been for quite some time now.

Yes indeed. Between the PEDs and the ridiculous cost of attending a game if you want to sit anywhere except the prison yard atmosphere of the cheap seats, I have had a waning interest in the modern game for quite some time.
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I'm with you on this Geno. I'm sick of all the PED's and HGH's and all the other crap. I think Andre Dawson summed it up best at his induction. Anyone that takes that stuff knows it's illegal and knows the concequences. If anybody could have benifitted from HGH, it's Hawk.

And a double thumbs up to your support of Mark Grace! He was old school IMO and I miss that
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This scandal is particularly disturbing for several reasons. First, from what I've read, Braun was one of the most outspoken players against PEDs. Second, I heard on ESPN this morning this failed test was known a month prior to Braun being voted MVP. Of course Bud Selig is the owner of Braun's team and is also the commissioner. Selig needs to publicly defend this clear lapse in timely punishment and if the failed tests indeed prove to be true, Braun's MVP award should be revoked.

And in response to the topic in general, yes, I'm very indifferent about MLB anymore which is sad because 2011 was the best playoff series in recent memory. Sadly, MLB keeps finding new ways to alienate fans.

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