Is there a way to remove a JSA sticker?

Tom Hufford · #1 12-16-2011, 01:03 PM

Any company that would put a permanent adhesive sticker anywhere on an object - especially on the front - has no respect whatsoever for the history, value, or integrity of the object. All they are really trying to do is to place an ad for themselves where it is sure to be seen.

And, an ad for what? The logo (signature?) on the pictured sticker really can't even be read - some other companies do use a logo or block lettering that can be read. But, 25 or 50 years from now, if someone were to run across an item with one of these stickere on it, what would they think? Who was stupid enough back then to do this? And will the company still be in business, or the computer database maintained anywhere, so that the numbers on the stickers will even have any meaning.

Do they need something to show that it has been authenticated? Since supposedly the authenticators have already left a bit of their DNA or whatever somewhere on the item, a Certificate of Authenticity that includes a photo of the item would do just fine.

I'm absolutely certain that if anyone submitted the Mona Lisa to one of these companies for authentication, it would probably come back with one of the stupid stickers right beside her smile.

Just my (less than) 2 cents worth.

drc · #2 12-16-2011, 01:07 PM

I woiuld imagine the sticker is sturdier than the paper underneath, so you will have paper loss if you try and remove it. I'd just leave it on.

Vintagedegu · #3 12-16-2011, 01:52 PM

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Tigerden · #4 12-16-2011, 05:46 PM

Packs BTW-that is a beautiful signature of the Mick. Yes, it is ashame they decided to slap that sticker on the front cover as opposed to a more discreet location like the back of the magazine. I have a few signed Sports Illustrated magazines that have the original mailing stamp on the front which are alot larger then the Spence sticker, but they don't bother me at all. Hell, maybe just for spite you could slap one of those Chiquita Bananna stickers over it. Richard is correct, probably just another way of getting free advertising.

egbeachley · #5 12-16-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigerden

Packs BTW-that is a beautiful signature of the Mick.

I thought one of the easiest things to look for on a fake is the lack of the flick-up on the second M.

Fuddjcal · #6 12-17-2011, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by egbeachley

I thought one of the easiest things to look for on a fake is the lack of the flick-up on the second M.

IMHO, 95% of the time you'll see the flick, 10% you won't. You might even see a slight blot of ink where his pen pressure changes. This one actually does has a slight flick which is good enough for me along with other portions of the autograph. This one is a BLAZER!

Some forgeries actually have no flick, and some are down right buffoonish in their attempt to slowly move from M to a. Almost like a fourth grader.

packs · #7 12-17-2011, 07:44 PM

There is a slight flick but its hard to see in my photo. You can see it better in this close up of the signature. Aside from my knowing that it's unquestionably authentic (signed at a show), another thing I look for in Mantle signatures is that the signature is on one even plane.

Lordstan · #8 12-17-2011, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

IMHO, 95% of the time you'll see the flick, 10% you won't.

Chuck,
I love your math.
Any chance you're related to Yogi?

thekingofclout · #9 12-18-2011, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lordstan

Chuck,
I love your math.
Any chance you're related to Yogi?

Classic!

perezfan · #10 12-16-2011, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Hufford

Any company that would put a permanent adhesive sticker anywhere on an object - especially on the front - has no respect whatsoever for the history, value, or integrity of the object. All they are really trying to do is to place an ad for themselves where it is sure to be seen.

And, an ad for what? The logo (signature?) on the pictured sticker really can't even be read - some other companies do use a logo or block lettering that can be read. But, 25 or 50 years from now, if someone were to run across an item with one of these stickere on it, what would they think? Who was stupid enough back then to do this? And will the company still be in business, or the computer database maintained anywhere, so that the numbers on the stickers will even have any meaning.

Do they need something to show that it has been authenticated? Since supposedly the authenticators have already left a bit of their DNA or whatever somewhere on the item, a Certificate of Authenticity that includes a photo of the item would do just fine.

I'm absolutely certain that if anyone submitted the Mona Lisa to one of these companies for authentication, it would probably come back with one of the stupid stickers right beside her smile.

Just my (less than) 2 cents worth.

This could not have been stated any better. The sticker represents a lack of reverance and respect for the item itself. And it shows how the Authentication Companies care most about promoting their own product.

I realize that the owner of the item is given this option upon submission... but perhaps it should no longer be an option! And how can JSA/PSA possibly justify stickering the front side??? I saw this recently on an Index Card as well. Just neglectful and mindless, IMO...

With that said, don't try to remove the damn thing... The tearing/smudging/discoloration it would create would look even worse. You still have a great piece, and I love how Mantle slapped a gorgeous "king sized" autograph in the perfect spot

David Atkatz · #11 12-16-2011, 03:40 PM

The placing of these stickers just shows how unprofessional and ignorant these companies are. The first thing a museum or archive curator will tell you is "do NOTHING to an artifact that cannot be undone without damage."

packs · #12 12-16-2011, 03:56 PM

Thanks everyone for chiming in. It sounds like I'm stuck with it. I wouldn't mind paying a restorer a hundred bucks if they could definitely remove it. If anyone tries to remove a sticker from an inexpenseive item I'd love to hear about the results.

By the way, does anyone know a good restorer in the Bay Area?

Shoeless Moe · #13 12-16-2011, 04:02 PM

mr2686 · #14 12-16-2011, 04:12 PM

Damn Paul, you made me shoot soda out of my nose

John V · #15 12-16-2011, 05:17 PM

Have you contacted the knuckleheads to ask if their stickers are easy to remove? It could be simpler and less risky than you think.

Mr. Zipper · #16 12-17-2011, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by packs

Thanks everyone for chiming in. It sounds like I'm stuck with it. I wouldn't mind paying a restorer a hundred bucks if they could definitely remove it. If anyone tries to remove a sticker from an inexpenseive item I'd love to hear about the results.

By the way, does anyone know a good restorer in the Bay Area?

PM sent.

travrosty · #17 12-17-2011, 01:02 PM

What really gets me is when they do this to rare photos, and baseballs.

one "authenticator" graded a ball that already had the sticker of another company on it, and did not take anything off of the grade even though the ball had a foregin object on it (sticker). Now if that sticker would have been a chiquita banana sticker, the grade of the ball would have dropped substantially, but because it was an ABC sticker, they didnt take anything off of the grade.

My question is why?

both ABC and a chiquita banana sticker are foreign objects attached the ball, detracting from it. but one is okay and the other is not.

its a crazy world, who can understand the craziness anymore?

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