Pennant collectors

[perezfan]

Final point, and then I'll shut up....

A beat-up version of this specific Dodgers Pennant can be found on Page 29 of Mike Egner's Pennant Price Guide (a great reference book for anyone interested in collecting vintage pennants).

[Hankphenom]

Of course, anything's possible, maybe these are the real deal. I'm not the greatest expert on pennants--I'd like to hear what someone like Dave Bushing or Dan Knowl thinks about these. But I've always liked the old pennants, I collect them, have dealt hundreds of them, have seen thousands more over the years. I just don't like the way these look, that's all. They have a homemade appearance to my eyes, the aging and stressing seems too similar between them, also completely unlike the wear and tear I'm used to seeing on old pennants. I especially think the paint on all of them doesn't seem stressed enough, too bright and too fresh-looking, compared to the "aging" on the rest. And I'm not accusing anyone, this seller or anyone else. I'm just saying I don't think they were made contemporaneously with the events they commemorate, that's all. They could have been made at any time, by any one, and they have made their way through the hobby. That's my two cents, worth no more and no less than anyone else's.
Hank Thomas

[thetahat]

Thanks everybody. These pennants clearly fit the style seen most often in the old Browns and Cardinals pennants that you see every now and then. They share in common: tassels that are the same color as body of pennant, paint along the wide end as opposed to a seperate sewn-on strip of cloth, and city name written vertically along wide end. The more common STL pennants have the tassels sewn on; the '39 Browns and Cardinals tassels are attached by grommets like the ones we are discussing. In my opinion these are definitely very old - can't tell for certain without holding them but I'd be at about 98% sure. I agree with Mark in that if you're gonna reproduce a pennant, you'd go for a better looking one rather than one with a generic baseball design; and even if this was done some years ago, you sure don't see many of them around.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Thanks everybody. These pennants clearly fit the style seen most often in the old Browns and Cardinals pennants that you see every now and then. They share in common: tassels that are the same color as body of pennant, paint along the wide end as opposed to a seperate sewn-on strip of cloth, and city name written vertically along wide end. The more common STL pennants have the tassels sewn on; the '39 Browns and Cardinals tassels are attached by grommets like the ones we are discussing. In my opinion these are definitely very old - can't tell for certain without holding them but I'd be at about 98% sure. I agree with Mark in that if you're gonna reproduce a pennant, you'd go for a better looking one rather than one with a generic baseball design; and even if this was done some years ago, you sure don't see many of them around.

So what's your guess as to when they were made and where they might have been sold? Do you think they were contemporaneous to the events and teams named? Do you know of two examples of the same pennant in this style?