Baseball Hall of Fame Vote

[Peter_Spaeth]

Chuck Finley and Rick Reuschel "clearly superior" to Jack Morris?

[Robextend]

Mike Mussina is going to be interesting in a couple of years. I don’t think he is a hall of famer, but postseason success aside, his career was better than that of Jack Morris (who I also don’t think is a hall of famer).

[Irwin Fletcher]

Originally Posted by Robextend

Mike Mussina is going to be interesting in a couple of years. I don’t think he is a hall of famer, but postseason success aside, his career was better than that of Jack Morris (who I also don’t think is a hall of famer).

I agree - Mussina is a really close case. And he was significantly better than Morris.

[Irwin Fletcher]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Chuck Finley and Rick Reuschel "clearly superior" to Jack Morris?

Baseball-Reference has Finley's career WAR as 55.0, compared to 39.3 for Morris. This is a significant difference. Also, Finley's career adjusted ERA+ is 115 (15 percent better than league average) while Morris's is 105 (5 percent better than league average).

Believe it or not, Reuschel blows both of them away in WAR - 66.3(!) and his career adjusted ERA+ is a solid 114.

My point is that no one considers Finley or Reuschel to be HOFers and rightfully so. Why all the love for Morris?

[packs]

I think Mussina is a definite HOFer but he'll probably have to wait a few years. He finished nearly 120 wins over 500 pitching his entire career in the AL East during the height of the steroid era. That's a HOFer to me.

[BleedinBlue]

Originally Posted by packs

I think Mussina is a definite HOFer but he'll probably have to wait a few years. He finished nearly 120 wins over 500 pitching his entire career in the AL East during the height of the steroid era. That's a HOFer to me.

I find it interesting that had Mussina decided to extend his career and play another 2-3 marginal years to get his 300th win he would be a LOCK hall of famer but because he quit on top but shy of 300 he's marginal.

[t206hound]

I'm glad to see Larkin get in... I always thought he was a great player, regardless of statistics. I got the auto below when he was on rehab assignment in Indianapolis in 1989. He was extremely nice to all the fans (especially the kids), much more so than the other Reds who came through Indy during rehabs (Chris Sabo comes to mind).