A slabbed reprint by SGC?

[danmckee]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1913-Nationa...item5ae4918ea2

This sure looks like a repro to me, the corners are not even close to the correct cut and the image is bad.

I say reprint.

[docpatlv]

Agreed.

[Leon]

Looks too grainy and too brown for my liking. Many, many reprints of these cards.....some can be tough to tell too.

[ctownboy]

Compare this National Game card to the other National game cards he has listed.
There is a definite difference between them.

David

[terjung]

[barrysloate]

Corners are wrong, color is wrong...wrong on all counts.

[Big Ben]

The slab looks a little frosty to me.

[greenmonster66]

Looks like a reprint to my eyes!!!

[scooter729]

Originally Posted by Big Ben

The slab looks a little frosty to me.

I can't imagine someone tampering with a holder on a card that's probably about $30 value, and I don't think this one appears to be tampered with. (I know, I know - ended the sentence with a preposition...)

But I totally agree that this looks like a reprint that got slabbed by SGC.

[danmckee]

Some reprints can be tough Leon, but when you sell yourself as the "experts" then darn it you better know what you are doing!

Too many mistakes in my opinion.

[Fred]

You guys gotta read the fine print. Read the item description, it indicates the following:

Item condition: Like New

[Leon]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Too many mistakes in my opinion.

Maybe, but they have saved me a minimum of $30,000 by finding color added before. No one is perfect. They shouldn't have graded this game card though.

[Big Ben]

Originally Posted by scooter729

I can't imagine someone tampering with a holder on a card that's probably about $30 value, and I don't think this one appears to be tampered with. (I know, I know - ended the sentence with a preposition...)

But I totally agree that this looks like a reprint that got slabbed by SGC.

Good point. I don't collect these cards so I was unaware of the value. Don't worry, I would be the last person to call the grammar police on a message board post.

[slidekellyslide]

If that's not a tampered slab then someone at SGC should be fired.

Anyone know if SGC stepped up to the plate on those Jim Rowe postcards yet?

[glynparson]

may be a popped case i cant believe lummy or bob is that stupid.

[glynparson]

an older slab early to mid 2000s, regardless its pathetic.

[fkw]

its a reprint

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by Leon

Maybe, but they have saved me a minimum of $30,000 by finding color added before. No one is perfect. They shouldn't have graded this game card though.

This is where you and I differ my good friend.

Color added that can only be seen magnified with a loop and not the naked eye, who cares.

In the 1960s and 70s, we used to add a little color to make the appearance look better in our binder sets. My US Caramel Lou Gehrig had a huge spot of yellow covering white where paperloss was on the face. We didn't have flesh tone markers back then! Too funny.

Dan

[danmckee]

Glyn, you summed it up nicely, PATHETIC is correct!

[Ease]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Color added that can only be seen magnified with a loop and not the naked eye, who cares.

I care. I'd venture a guess that I'm not the only one either.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by danmckee

This is where you and I differ my good friend.

Color added that can only be seen magnified with a loop and not the naked eye, who cares.

In the 1960s and 70s, we used to add a little color to make the appearance look better in our binder sets. My US Caramel Lou Gehrig had a huge spot of yellow covering white where paperloss was on the face. We didn't have flesh tone markers back then! Too funny.

Dan

Dan- I am sure you wouldn't care if you bought a $27,500 Boston Garter Speaker, raw, and it had color added. You are right, I did care and returned it. It was bought with the guarantee it wasn't altered. The seller is a friend and it was a bummer for him. But I wouldn't pay that much for that altered card. Great folks and great friends disagree all of the time. You and Pops are still two of the best in my book.

[danmckee]

Yes times have changed and I understand you need to protect your investment. Buy yourself a blacklight instead of trusting clueless people who know about 1/100th of what you know.

Cards were not that expensive in the old days and the naked eye appearance was more important than a portfolio purchase.

Dano

[FrankWakefield]

Amen, Dan. The black light is one of the easiest, misunderstood, and useful tools there is for a vintage collector.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Yes times have changed and I understand you need to protect your investment. Buy yourself a blacklight instead of trusting clueless people who know about 1/100th of what you know.

Cards were not that expensive in the old days and the naked eye appearance was more important than a portfolio purchase.

Dano

One of the first vintage cards I bought was a T205 Matty with a chunk of paper missing from his nose. It only made sense to me to color it in - it was my card and I wanted it to look nicer. If I had given it any thought, I would have figured I increased the value by my actions. Now I know better and I simply would never buy a card that needed altering in order to look presentable.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Yes times have changed and I understand you need to protect your investment. Buy yourself a blacklight instead of trusting clueless people who know about 1/100th of what you know.

Cards were not that expensive in the old days and the naked eye appearance was more important than a portfolio purchase.

Dano

Hey Dan
Nothing personal here, but a friendly debate. I have had a black-light, in working order, for 10+ yrs. The color wasn't fluorescent. When it was pointed out to me after the fact I saw it. I just missed it. They didn't.