coaches corner babe ruth red sox ball unreal!

HRBAKER · #1 01-25-2012, 03:25 PM

Not so fast Chris, is that an "auction LOA" or a full LOA?

thetruthisoutthere · #2 01-25-2012, 04:10 PM

Chris Morales, when asked "How long do you spend per item?"

He replied "That varies. If you look at somebody like Babe Ruth, where I've seen a high volume, it wouldn't take as long because I know his characteristics."

Morales said that seven years ago. And look at the absolute garbage he continues to "authenticate."

Ladder7 · #3 01-25-2012, 04:42 PM

"If you look at somebody like Babe Ruth, where I've seen a high volume..."

thetruthisoutthere · #4 01-25-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladder7

"If you look at somebody like Babe Ruth, where I've seen a high volume..."

Steve, that's hilarious!!!

Fuddjcal · #5 01-25-2012, 05:05 PM

oh, I almost forgot, It's (FDE's cheater f'ers like Chris Moral less) not a problem though

, YEAH REALLY

Here's an analogy...Moral less is a Festering Boil on the ass of the autograph industry, while the "alphabets" are just hemorrhoids

Both are irritating.

thetruthisoutthere · #6 01-25-2012, 05:43 PM

Chris Morales once said "The signature may look good, but if it's a Babe Ruth signature signed with a sharpie, you know they weren't around."

This is presently on the Roach's Corner auction site. A golf ball signed by Babe Ruth "authenticated" by Chris Morales, Forensic Investigator.

Yeah, Morales, that was signed with a fountain pen!!!!

Morales-GolfBall-CC.jpg

gnaz01 · #7 01-25-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Chris Morales once said "The signature may look good, but if it's a Babe Ruth signature signed with a sharpie, you know they weren't around."

This is presently on the Roach's Corner auction site. A golf ball signed by Babe Ruth "authenticated" by Chris Morales, Forensic Investigator.

Yeah, Morales, that was signed with a fountain pen!!!!

Attachment 54871

But Chris, you can see it from 16.75 feet away

Mr. Zipper · #8 01-25-2012, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Chris Morales once said "The signature may look good, but if it's a Babe Ruth signature signed with a sharpie, you know they weren't around."

This is presently on the Roach's Corner auction site. A golf ball signed by Babe Ruth "authenticated" by Chris Morales, Forensic Investigator.

Yeah, Morales, that was signed with a fountain pen!!!!

Attachment 54871

Is that red stripe on the golf ball the kind they use at driving ranges today?

Did those exist in the 40s?

Bilko G · #9 01-26-2012, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by hrbaker

not so fast chris, is that an "auction loa" or a full loa? :d

lmao!

thetruthisoutthere · #10 01-26-2012, 11:06 AM

Here's another masterpiece certed Christopher Morales, Forensic Investigator. The below piece of crap is being sold on the website where I first discovered Morales years ago. I won't mention the website.

SigDreams-Ruth2.jpg

D. Bergin · #11 01-26-2012, 11:36 AM

What I want to really know. More important then Sports Memorabilia.

Does Morales actually get work as a forensic examiner in actual court cases. If so, what does that really say about our justice system, that he can sway juries who know nothing of his shaky history.

thetruthisoutthere · #12 01-26-2012, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

What I want to really know. More important then Sports Memorabilia.

Does Morales actually get work as a forensic examiner in actual court cases. If so, what does that really say about our justice system, that he can sway juries who know nothing of his shaky history.

Lovert Bassett vs. Bryan Slaven, Case No. 10 SC 3866

Chris Morales "authenticated" signed photos of Bela Lugosi, Boris Karloff and Lon Chaney that were sold to Mr. Lovert Bassett by Bryan Slaven of Autograph Central.

To make a long story short, Mr. Bassett discovered that the autographs he purchased from Bryan Slaven were forgeries (traced). Mr. Bassett actually contracted a true forensic examiner to examine the autographs he purchased and that forensic examiner discovered the autographs were traced.

Mr. Morales was called upon to testify in court on behalf of Bryan Slaven (Autograph Central) and his testimony was struck by Judge Fusz.

By the way, I was in direct email contact with Mr. Lovert Bassett, who was refunded all of his monies by Bryan Slaven.

The total amount refunded to Mr. Bassett was $7, 345.00.

D. Bergin · #13 01-26-2012, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Lovert Bassett vs. Bryan Slaven, Case No. 10 SC 3866

Chris Morales "authenticated" signed photos of Bela Lugosi, Boris Karloff and Lon Chaney that were sold to Mr. Lovert Bassett by Bryan Slaven of Autograph Central.

To make a long story short, Mr. Bassett discovered that the autographs he purchased from Bryan Slaven were forgeries (traced). Mr. Bassett actually contracted a true forensic examiner to examine the autographs he purchased and that forensic examiner discovered the autographs were traced.

Mr. Morales was called upon to testify in court on behalf of Bryan Slaven (Autograph Central) and his testimony was struck by Judge Fusz.

By the way, I was in direct email contact with Mr. Lovert Bassett, who was refunded all of his monies by Bryan Slaven.

The total amount refunded to Mr. Bassett was $7, 345.00.

Are there any cases involving Morales that aren't necessarily involved with the Autograph Collectibles market?

Fuddjcal · #14 01-26-2012, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Lovert Bassett vs. Bryan Slaven, Case No. 10 SC 3866

Chris Morales "authenticated" signed photos of Bela Lugosi, Boris Karloff and Lon Chaney that were sold to Mr. Lovert Bassett by Bryan Slaven of Autograph Central.

To make a long story short, Mr. Bassett discovered that the autographs he purchased from Bryan Slaven were forgeries (traced). Mr. Bassett actually contracted a true forensic examiner to examine the autographs he purchased and that forensic examiner discovered the autographs were traced.

Mr. Morales was called upon to testify in court on behalf of Bryan Slaven (Autograph Central) and his testimony was struck by Judge Fusz.

By the way, I was in direct email contact with Mr. Lovert Bassett, who was refunded all of his monies by Bryan Slaven.

The total amount refunded to Mr. Bassett was $7, 345.00.

A mere pittance as we all know that MORAL LESS doesn't cost the autograph community very much

thetruthisoutthere · #15 01-26-2012, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

A mere pittance as we all know that MORAL LESS doesn't cost the autograph community very much

Very true, Chuck. Fortunately, Mr. Bassett, got his money back. There was another story of "1919 Black Sox" team-signed ball certed by Morales. It originated from Coach's Corner and sold for almost 3K. It was then sold at a store on the west coast for 10K. Fortunately, the buyer did some research, and discovered it was a forgery. That buyer got their money back.

But what about the thousands of other items that are flipped for 5-20 times after the Roach's Corner purchase price where the impulse buyer still believes they own a Christy Mathewson signed baseball; or a Mike "King" Kelly signed ball; or a Geronimo cut sig; or a Mark Twain/Samuel Clemens signed letter; or those hundreds of Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig signed bats.

Because we're always talking sports over here, we (I do) never think about all of that other crap that Morales "authenticates." Music-related autographs like Beatles signed albums; Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison cut sigs, letters, and lyric sheets.

You're right, Chuck, I guess those millions of dollars of crap out there don't matter.

novakjr · #16 01-26-2012, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

What I want to really know. More important then Sports Memorabilia.

Does Morales actually get work as a forensic examiner in actual court cases. If so, what does that really say about our justice system, that he can sway juries who know nothing of his shaky history.

I'd go as far as to guess that Morales might actually know what he's doing when it comes to his forensic examinations. However, the man has no integrity. It's in his best interest financially to just pass everything, and I'll guess that in court cases, he probably just sides with whoever pays him as well.

Much like a psychiatrist, if they're hired by the prosecution, the defendant is always sane. If they're hired by the defense, then the defendant is always a nutjob.. Same for defense attorneys and prosecutors. There's no right or wrong, there's just who's paying the bills.

thetruthisoutthere · #17 01-26-2012, 12:16 PM

[QUOTE=novakjr;960380]I'd go as far as to guess that Morales might actually know what he's doing when it comes to his forensic examinations.

I wouldn't trust Morales to forensically examine water to determine if water is wet or dry.

novakjr · #18 01-26-2012, 12:18 PM

[QUOTE=thetruthisoutthere;960383]

Quote:

Originally Posted by novakjr

I'd go as far as to guess that Morales might actually know what he's doing when it comes to his forensic examinations.

I wouldn't trust Morales to forensically examine if water is wet or dry.

That wasn't necessarily my point. It was more of, is he capable of giving an ACCURATE answer? Possibly... Can he be trusted to give an HONEST answer when money is involved? NO!!!

rjackson44 · #19 01-26-2012, 11:37 AM

chris are you sure thats not real

you can see the signature miles away.chris theres also a piccaso painting painted by him lot one worth 115k they said with a signature,,,look at the bids lol. it look like i painted it

wheres the f.b.i,

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