T206 Dubuc with a Miscut Piedmont

[Blunder19]

in my opinion the mile high auction was crazy hi.. unitl I see a 2nd sell for over $2K im considering that a battle between 2 guys for that 1 particular card... Id be surprised if it was more than 2 people bidding that up all the way...I wish we could see a list of the number of bidders on each lot... bidder #1 vs Bidder #2 for example.

its funny how back in 1910...some guy... probably his first day on the job... put a sheet in upside down... then lined the sheet up off center and cut it... and his mistake is worth thousands these days...

I solute you.. rookie factory worker from 1910.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by Blunder19

in my opinion the mile high auction was crazy hi.. unitl I see a 2nd sell for over $2K im considering that a battle between 2 guys for that 1 particular card... Id be surprised if it was more than 2 people bidding that up all the way...I wish we could see a list of the number of bidders on each lot... bidder #1 vs Bidder #2 for example.

its funny how back in 1910...some guy... probably his first day on the job... put a sheet in upside down... then lined the sheet up off center and cut it... and his mistake is worth thousands these days...

I solute you.. rookie factory worker from 1910.

Jamie, no offense but that is a really silly comment. This was just a case of a bidding war between two interested parties regarding this item? Jamie that describes just about every auction. There can’t be two or more under bidders ever. There is a winner an under bidder and folks who participated that’s it (and sometimes folks shilling.) LOL

Jamie you can say you wouldn’t pay that price yourself that’s 100% fair, but to say something is crazy high or anomaly is not perhaps the proper way of looking at it. As the market clearly showed what someone was willing to pay for the item the other night.

IMO it’s very hard to set value on many of these cards because some of them trade so irregularly one could put ballparks to some cards but others it’s very hard to say until they are offered. Then through the process of an auction a price is realized. Regardless of how many people participate.

Exactly the point with Leon’s other thread about what would these sell for. Leon knows my private offer but to truly see what the market will show he needs to put them off in an auction and wait till closing night.

Will I get the same down the road? Will I get more? Did I over pay? The market will decide that when it’s sold.

In the end all cards are worth only what somebody is willing to pay. In regards to these oddballs the market is even less defined and way more thin because each one is one of kind per say and they trade way less often.

Cheers,

John

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

In regards to these oddballs the market is even less defined and way more thin because each one is one of kind per say and they trade way less often.

So true. I have sold a few of my error cards over the years and basically been able to dictate the prices I wanted because they are just that idiosyncratic.

The Dubuc price was in the right range for a T206 mistake; that was a nice miscut back. IMO a front miscut would be worth even more; I'd not be surprised to see one sell for $300 or more on fleabay.

[mrvster]

Wonka

GREAT SCORE!!....that upside down back is sick.....a clean , great example.....i told Jimmy, the auction would probably go $2500.00......you actually got it cheaper than i expected!.....

You nailed it Wonka....these anomalies are too unique to put a price on it...especially upside down backs....i have seen approx 25 total of them in 15 years....hmmmm....much rarer than drum/uzit ....thats including all different backs....i beleive an upside down back should be part of a back run....but i know that might not be "main stream" for now


Anyway, you got a great example CONGRATS....the true acid test Jamie, put your om at auction....

Ask jim what he'd sell his upside down sweet cap Batch for...


Put your upside down om in Goodwin or Rea, i but it goes past $2500.00...i have seen only 3 upside down om total besides chris's 4 back..i told you to buy Chance and that sounded high at the time??aren't you glad you bought??

I told you to get om at $750.00, and that was a steal, but the price jumped in just a few months...and you still got a steal..

Let me put it this way, post a bst or do a survey out there asking for an upside down back...


better yet.....HOW MANY OUT THERE OWN upside down backs vs. Uzit or Drum????

I can gaurentee there are way more Drums and Uzits than upside down backs, they are just more poular cause everyone wants one in there run, but wait until everone wants an upside down back when they have others,i have been watching these things for years, they are finally getting the respect they deserve, Way rarer than Drum or Uzit....

Look at blank backs, i have been saying this for years, blank backs are rarer than Broadleaf or red Hindy or Lenox imho.....and i would take one any day over those tuf backs...the perception is"i have seen alot of blank backs" just a relative term....


They are one of a kind cards, they are unique T206 unto themselves...if a collector wanted a "one of a kind set" theyd put together the whole set this way, and none could be duplicated....how can you put a price tag on that???

Think about this....rare backs all look the same, the anomalies are all different, they are like "snow flakes"(especially the dramatic scrap, in where each one is unique!!!( this is my snowflake theory), the more dramatic, the more unique, the more value...Chris knows where i'm coming from....these freaks have just flown under the radar the last few years(to my benefit)...


Let me say another thing , Jamie....What card would you never part with besides your drum cobb??? Would that be Chance??

Jimmy r, what card would he never part with???? I can tell you that would be his blank back SICK-ASS Cassidy ghost....and he has one of the sickest collections out there


Chris....what card would you never part with


Always seem to be the most unique ones huh???Coincidence??

Sure you can hunt down bl 460 , just bl 460 is needed for back runs are they are truly rare, but on the same rarity feild as some of these freaks....try to hunt down a Chance ghost, or over- print back??? Jamie, you have been scouring BST for months, and they are few and far between.......if you asked for bl 460 and have the cash, a few will show up.....the only time i ever seen the opp for the ghost is my weimer twin....look at the offers already on him ....there are only 2 known that i'm aware of....

Leon, what are 2 of your most prized cards??could it be multi strike or Matty proof???

My point.....can't replace uniqueness.....each one HAS IT'S OWN MARKET


Keep an eye on these freaks, collectors have started to realize....if you want something truly unique, special, and rare these are the way to go...


Everyone when bored with the same ol back , Magie, ect will desire something truly unique....ya, a drum back is cool to look at or a bl.....but check out a multi strike back like Leon's, then you really see the difference...


if anyone is bored with there freaks, send em my way!!LOL
Peace

V

[mrvster]

I dream of that "sheet"



I will work for t206!LOL......

Adam,

You nailed the market to the "T"....

Titus is Chillin.....still can't figure that card out...

[mrvster]

That double vision...I've been looking for this Damn example for 12 years and finally got one....Close my eyes, that double Vision....

Chris, YOUR THE MAN....Jamie and Chris, you guys also, thanx...one of my "white whales"....

[sb1]

Stayed tuned for the next B & L Auction, upside down Bender!! from the same sheet as Johnny's. The card was discussed here many years ago and now being offered for sale.

[scottglevy]

That will be fun to see at auction

S