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02-11-2012, 09:28 PM
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If there is a BCCG problem then it's a small one.
Few cards and even fewer folks who probably care. I don't think they've graded enough cards to cause confusion.
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02-11-2012, 10:07 PM
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This is so confusing...
If I submit a card to PSA, it could come back one of 46 different grades. And you guys think BCCG is confusing?
PSA Authentic PSA 1 PSA 1 MK PSA 1 OC PSA 1 MC PSA 1.5 PSA 2 PSA 2 MK PSA 2 OC PSA 2 MC PSA 2.5 PSA 3 PSA 3 MK PSA 3 OC PSA 3 MC PSA 3.5 PSA 4 PSA 4 MK PSA 4 OC PSA 4 MC PSA 4.5 PSA 5 PSA 5 MK PSA 5 OC PSA 5 MC PSA 5.5 PSA 6 PSA 6 MK PSA 6 OC PSA 6 MC PSA 6.5 PSA 7 PSA 7 MK PSA 7 OC PSA 7 MC PSA 7.5 PSA 8 PSA 8 MK PSA 8 OC PSA 8 MC PSA 8.5 PSA 9 PSA 9 MK PSA 9 OC PSA 9 MC PSA 10 Last edited by vintagetoppsguy; 02-11-2012 at 10:07 PM.
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02-11-2012, 10:15 PM
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David,
That's a heck of a lot of grades but yet I think most folks who care about graded cards have a pretty good handle on it. Jeff
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02-11-2012, 10:29 PM
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Absolutely agreed. That's why I don't understand the intent of the original post. People buying graded cards should be aware of the TPGs grading scale beforehand and, if not, should educate themselves before making a purchase. If the OP wants to inform folks about BCCG's grading scale, then that is terrific. However, to make it sound like BCCG is at fault for anything is absurd. Also, in my post above I forgot the PD and the ST qualifier so make that 64 different grades that a PSA card could receive.
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02-12-2012, 07:34 AM
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you forgot PD
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02-12-2012, 07:41 PM
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I'm not a PSA fan. However, their 1-10 scale was established as the industy standard by virtue of their early, dominant entry into a fledgling market. Beckett's use of the past and present standard of a 1-5 grading scale for it's card price guide and a 1-10 grading scale for it's premium grading service is all well and good. BUT, the use of a 1-5 grading scale that starts at 6 through 10, for a substandard service branch, is an obvious attempt at deception. It sets up an avenue for unethical sellers to submit cards to BCCG with the intent to deceive prospective buyers. Other than that, there is no real reason for anyone to use that particular service AND Beckett's knows it. I really lost all repect for Beckett's when they hatched that plan.
Yeah, sure, as always, it's buyer beware. It's also yet another industry eyesore stemming from greed and adding to an ever declining market. Last edited by theseeker; 02-12-2012 at 07:45 PM.
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02-12-2012, 07:49 PM
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02-12-2012, 08:52 PM
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Elevate
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02-13-2012, 01:20 PM
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But ever since Bo Derek a "10" has been what people wanted, not a "5". And HSC wouldn't have submitted as many cards hoping for "5's".... So grandma surfing ebay or watching HSC hears "This Derek Jeter card has been graded a "10" by Beckett" and doesn't understand the difference in grading scales and plunks down $50 for a birthday present thinking she got a deal. So I guess everyone is happy, HSC/Ebay dealer makes money, BCCG makes money, BCCG stockholders make money, and granny thinks she got a deal. And that folks is the beauty of the free market system......
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02-13-2012, 01:40 PM
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I prefer raw, but do like the extra security of buying more expensive cards (for me) in a slab just for the increased odds that I'd be buying an authentic unaltered card. Despite the difference in grading scales, is there any reason to think a BCCG card has any more chance of being a fake or altered than PSA, SGC, or BGS ?
Last edited by tonyo; 02-13-2012 at 01:44 PM. Reason: added "altering"
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02-13-2012, 10:01 PM
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If grandma doesn't understand the grading scale and thinks a 10 is a 10 is a 10, then what's the difference in my example and yours? There is none! So by your logic SGC is being deceptive as well by offering a grade of 10, right? So if you're complaining about BCCG's 10, why not complain about SGC's 10? Come on, you can't have it both ways! How can you tell me that BCCG's 10 could be confusing to someone that doesn't know the grading scale, but SGC's 10 isn't? Please answer that! That question isn't only addressed to DavidW, but also to the others that said BCCGs 10 was deceptive. Last edited by vintagetoppsguy; 02-13-2012 at 10:03 PM.
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